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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 20

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted

      That was why I said 'we' about the universal liberals. I certainly don't claim not to be biased towards universal liberalism. That would make it hard to argue for. I thought that was a good attempt at steelmanning the IdPol position & their concerns abt the UniLib one. No? https://twitter.com/rgigger/status/998157270297948161 …

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    2. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think it was a good attempt but there are some things that I would change if the goal is for the people you are describing to feel like they aren’t being mischaracterized.

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    3. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
      Replying to @rgigger @HPluckrose

      So I am obvs biased in the other direction but the whole “Identity Politics” label feels like a smear. It feels like you are saying we want to divide the world up by race rather than simply dealing with the fact that other people already have.

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    4. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
      Replying to @rgigger @HPluckrose

      Whereas claiming that “Universal Liberalism” can’t apply to people who think we need to talk about race seems unfair.

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    5. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
      Replying to @rgigger @HPluckrose

      Like I don’t accept that “identity politics” is all about advocating for aggrieved minorities. “Identity politics” starts with the majority oppressing the minority based on identity. That is also identity politics.

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    6. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
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      Saying that the people who point this out are the ones bringing identity into it seems unfair.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 20
      Replying to @rgigger

      ??? I don't know where you are getting this from. I will soon be writing an essay about this and perhaps this will clear it up. Both forms of anti-racism necessarily have to deal with racism and this requires addressing racial identity.

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    8. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Maybe I’m asking too much here or maybe I’m parsing your words too intently but here is how I see it:

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    9. In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊‏ @rgigger May 20
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      In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊 Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      You say our approach is “focusing intensely on race”. I would say that other have chosen to focus on race and we are choosing to not pretend like they aren’t.https://twitter.com/hpluckrose/status/998130191561101312?s=21 …

      In 9 days Vote. Them. Out.  🌊 added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      Yep. There are two competing beliefs about what will end racism. 1) Focusing intensely on race to become alert to how racism operates on many implicit levels. 2) Treating race as irrelevant to normalise evaluating people individually & make casual racism socially unacceptable. https://twitter.com/IonaItalia/status/998068548156166144 …
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 20
      Replying to @rgigger

      Then I'm not talking about you! Please go away now. I don't want to mute you.

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