Those things definitely matter, and they can and should be measured. But when we talk about cultures being “morally superior” overall, that becomes harder to quantify (but concepts like well-being/flourishing are helpful).
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Well-being & flourishing can certainly be linked to moral policies but they could also be linked to wealth so less clear-cut as things like human rights and equality.
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Definitely less clear-cut. Would you agree that it could be possible (in theory) for a culture to score very high on human rights/equality, but still low on overall well-being?
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Yes, the first would be the moral measure tho and we were talking about a moral measure.
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Increasing well-being isn’t an issue of morals?
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??? That is what we base our morality on but no, you couldn't say that having greater wellbeing makes one more moral. This could be a matter of wealth. I think you have to measure ethical policies themselves. But I've said this. If you still don't see it, lets leave it.
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I didn’t mean that HAVING greater well being makes one more moral - I meant that policies which increase well-being are more moral. How are we measuring moral/ethical policies if not on the degree to which they improve well-being?
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Yes, and I am saying that its the policies themselves we can measure. We don't disagree on that and I have argued it many times. Can we leave it now if you still don't understand my point? I can't clarify any better than I have.
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