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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 11
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @HPluckrose @dpxton

      What Jones or Shapiro or Peterson or Carl Benjamin do - in its form and its social function - is not, for good or ill, intellectual. It’s part of an expanded form of the op-ed form and shaped in large part by what it’s market demands.

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    2. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 11
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @HPluckrose @dpxton

      It’s self-designation as ‘dark’ is part of that - acting as if ‘edgy’ and out there when much of what they say is mainstream, regularly said in national newspapers and recycled from well known sources.

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    3. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 11
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @HPluckrose @dpxton

      But always adapted to make its adherents feel good about themselves - to blame others for their problems, and to affirm that they are the righteous who should inherit the earth. That’s not truth-telling. It’s not science or philosophy. It’s creating a market.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 11
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton

      I'm not sure what or who you are talking about. This sounds a lot like the conservative talking point about responsibility and pulling yourself up by the bootstraps usually aimed at progressives but it probably isn't.

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    5. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton

      It’s a point about the commodification of knowledge, reducing it to a trade in opinions which people then mistake for intellectual activity and defend because the opinions flatter them.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 12
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton

      OK. People tend to do that, certainly. Lived experience and emotionally-resonant narratives seen as truth and objective knowledge denied. We see it most in the populist right and the intersectional left. This is why treating people as individuals is important.

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    7. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton

      Can you explain your reasons for deriving the final sentence from the previous two? They would seem to me to be contradictory.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 12
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton

      Tribal groups take on metanarratives which suit them, whether postmodern or post-truth or religious or whatever. That's why I don't like the idea of an 'intellectual dark web.' These are very different people & should be evaluated as individuals.

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    9. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 12
      Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton

      You use the word ‘tribal’. What makes one set a ‘tribe’ and one ‘’different people’, to be ‘evaluated individually’?

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    10. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 12
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @HPluckrose @dpxton

      Is it not possible to see individuals, identify common features and then conceive of them as a group or class?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 12
      Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton

      Yes, of course. I'd say these people don't fit that in any meaningful way but then I evaluate people by their principles & epistemologies.

      10:17 AM - 12 May 2018
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        2. Alan Finlayson‏ @ProfAFinlayson May 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton

          Indeed. And we can see where those come from (they didn’t invent the ) and what they do (their uses and effects). Which is why the Jungian mystic and professional atheist belong in the same group.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 12
          Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton

          I would ask you to explain that but I really don't want to spend any more time on this. You do you.

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