People’s motivations are not at issue. It’s about genre and social relationships. We don’t distinguish between a sermon, a sales pitch, a political oration or a philosophical discourse with reference to motivation.
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What Jones or Shapiro or Peterson or Carl Benjamin do - in its form and its social function - is not, for good or ill, intellectual. It’s part of an expanded form of the op-ed form and shaped in large part by what it’s market demands.
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It’s self-designation as ‘dark’ is part of that - acting as if ‘edgy’ and out there when much of what they say is mainstream, regularly said in national newspapers and recycled from well known sources.
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But always adapted to make its adherents feel good about themselves - to blame others for their problems, and to affirm that they are the righteous who should inherit the earth. That’s not truth-telling. It’s not science or philosophy. It’s creating a market.
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I'm not sure what or who you are talking about. This sounds a lot like the conservative talking point about responsibility and pulling yourself up by the bootstraps usually aimed at progressives but it probably isn't.
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It’s a point about the commodification of knowledge, reducing it to a trade in opinions which people then mistake for intellectual activity and defend because the opinions flatter them.
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Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton
OK. People tend to do that, certainly. Lived experience and emotionally-resonant narratives seen as truth and objective knowledge denied. We see it most in the populist right and the intersectional left. This is why treating people as individuals is important.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton
Can you explain your reasons for deriving the final sentence from the previous two? They would seem to me to be contradictory.
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Replying to @ProfAFinlayson @dpxton
Tribal groups take on metanarratives which suit them, whether postmodern or post-truth or religious or whatever. That's why I don't like the idea of an 'intellectual dark web.' These are very different people & should be evaluated as individuals.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton
You use the word ‘tribal’. What makes one set a ‘tribe’ and one ‘’different people’, to be ‘evaluated individually’?
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Tribal behaviour. Seeing a clear in-group and out-group and evaluating by that, closing yourself to all other viewpoints and never trying to find common ground with people who differ from you. Treat everyone as individuals whatever set you think they belong to or they say they do
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