I officially register an objection to the term ‘intellectual dark web’. It’s not dark. They aren’t intellectuals. They’re sophists - selling second hand phrases and sayings, packaged to make those buying them feel good. We should call it the car boot sale of conservative opinion.
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Replying to @ProfAFinlayson
Do you normally label entire groups this way? Seems sloppy to me.
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Replying to @dpxton
If you want to defend something defend it; don’t hide that defence in the form of an empty critique of ‘naming’ classes of things. Bring forward a proof that they aren’t mostly doing it for the money and that their ideas transcend the mere statement of opinion.
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Replying to @ProfAFinlayson
You're making the claim Alan. You defend it. Who are all these members of the IDW you refer to. Is
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Replying to @dpxton @ProfAFinlayson
I have said all I want to say on the topic of an IDW. And I'm not sure how you prove that someone's motivations aren't the most nefarious their detractors can posit, though you can easily point to any of them speaking factually or opining.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @dpxton
People’s motivations are not at issue. It’s about genre and social relationships. We don’t distinguish between a sermon, a sales pitch, a political oration or a philosophical discourse with reference to motivation.
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What Jones or Shapiro or Peterson or Carl Benjamin do - in its form and its social function - is not, for good or ill, intellectual. It’s part of an expanded form of the op-ed form and shaped in large part by what it’s market demands.
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It’s self-designation as ‘dark’ is part of that - acting as if ‘edgy’ and out there when much of what they say is mainstream, regularly said in national newspapers and recycled from well known sources.
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It's a silly title, yes, but this seems to be a different point again. And they all say very different things within different fields of scholarship and different politics and different values.
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