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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 9

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted fake geek guy

      Don't be that person who reads a lengthy analysis of intersectionality which goes back to the source, calls on many others, engages with recent analyses, identifies three main problems and details them at length and then says,https://twitter.com/light_rook/status/994276397441990656 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      fake geek guy @light_rook
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      It seems like his only objection to intersectionality is that leftists care about it?
      1 reply 1 retweet 23 likes
    2. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I was hoping my objections would be clear from that, but let's walk over his arguments:

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    3. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @light_rook @HPluckrose

      > 1. Intersectionality Employs Dangerous and Imprecise Language Here he objects to the fact that xality "presupposes that most people in the United States suffer from oppression" ... but that's not an idea specific to xality, just a general objection to using a leftist framework

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    4. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @light_rook @HPluckrose

      > 2. Intersectionality Encourages Ideological Uniformity and Fosters Groupthink Again, gives some examples of groupthink found in xional thinkers, but gives no reason to think that this in exceeds the usual found in left spaces or even just activist spaces (which r prone to it)

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 9
      Replying to @light_rook

      Well, it does. That's why the liberal left and the libertarian left and to some extent to radical and Marxist left are opposing it. These are accurate criticisms of intersectionality which are being made by lefties too.

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    6. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      sorry, twitter is squashing a lot of my attempted nuance here: there's a particular framework that's popular on the left, one in which intersectionality makes sense, that he's addressing here

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 9
      Replying to @light_rook

      That will be the postmodern left. The rest of us are trying to fix that.

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    8. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      it's broader than that. sure, the sort of sloppy thinking encouraged by early postmodernist though is easy to spot and object to, but again, discussions of intersectionality aren't limited to a pomo framework

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 9
      Replying to @light_rook

      Crenshaw is. 'Intersectionality is a framework linking contemporary politics with postmodern theory.' If you're talking about it in another sense, you could be right. Author specifies her version tho. I have to go and work tho. I'll leave you with this.https://areomagazine.com/2018/02/07/no-postmodernism-is-not-dead-and-other-misconceptions/ …

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    10. fake geek guy‏ @light_rook May 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      ah, yeah, I think, as most things born in academia, the seminal work is usually wrong in almost every way, which makes reading Crenshaw not a very useful exercise for this.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 9
      Replying to @light_rook

      Well, I think it does because it is her version that is being used in the identity politics, diversity & inclusion narrative of the SocJus left. I attached my essay explaining this and now I really must work.

      12:08 PM - 9 May 2018
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