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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 2

      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      Sorry, but this really isn't very good. Admittedly, "postmodernism" is very difficult - perhaps impossible - to summarize, but there's a lot of conflation, misunderstanding, oversimplification, etc, here.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/991684340659707905 …

      Jeremy Stangroom added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      I felt the need to make this. I am meant to be working but I think that making this will save much time currently spent answering this question. pic.twitter.com/vQqyL9Hiw5
      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 3
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp

      But this isn't a summary of postmodernism. That was my point. Critics of 'Postmodernism' are really criticising a few ideas which originate from it. Or do you think they're criticising something else? I know some like to conflate it with Marxism.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Having said that... Standpoint theory, for example, isn't postmodernist. It's Marxist originally. Lukacs-->Hartsock. Actually, Twitter is hopeless for this sort of thing, so I'll shut up! 😀😀😀

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    4. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @HPluckrose

      You are completely correct, Jeremy. Standpoint epistemology has roots in Marxism. It is associated with socialist feminists.Those such as Hartsock accept an objective view. Postmodernist feminist epistemology doesn't. More traditional feminist epistemology (consciousness raising)

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      I don't think people are criticising the radfems much right now tho. It isn't them doing what people are criticising under the name of 'postmodernism' tho some like to throw 'neo-Marxism' and 'cultural Marxism' in there wrongly. They mean the whole 'diversity' 'ID politics' thing

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    6. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      I'm not sure I agree with you. When you say "people", who do you mean? The rad fems have their own critique of postmodernism. This paper by MacKinnon is where I would start. https://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3210&context=cklawreview …

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      I mean people opposed to identity politics generally. Left-liberals, centrists, conservatives (tho they're inclined to conflate Marxism & postmodernism), libertarians. Nonfeminists or liberal feminists. My readership, essentially. I'm not talking abt radfems.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      Yes, but your readership is not necessarily the academic world. You might want to look at Susan Hekman's postmodernist critique of Standpoint theory and the subsequent debate on that paper. The paper, "Truth and Method: Feminist Standdpont Theory Revisited" was published...

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      That seems like a non-sequitur. You are right that my readership is not predominantly academic and so this is unlikely to interest them as much as the ideas which are travelling into activism, leftist social conscience and wider society. The ones they see.

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    10. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      Yes, I suspect my own sources, which are academic sources, are not ones that your average Twitter activist would have bother reading.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      No, and yet the ideas which are affecting them are academic in origin so this is my reading. But I am reading Crenshaw, Butler, Applebaum, Medina, Dotson etc to address primarily intersectionality which is dominant now in feminism.

      2:56 PM - 8 May 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          People are still mostly working on universal liberalism which tries to make identity irrelevant & level the playing field & the marketplace of ideas where we accept other people's right to their views but argue with them. The current phenomenon seems inconsistent & hypocritical

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          So I am trying to break down the intersectional mindset and this is what this was about. I've been calling it 'postmodern' because it does stem from there but this causes too much confusion & justified accusations of reductionism so I'm not sure what to call it.pic.twitter.com/z0kg2v04ho

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        2. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          I disagree that Crenshaw and those you mention are dominant in feminism: at least not in the elite universities. Radical feminists have that privilege. .Consider those such as the highly regarded (in the feminist world) Rae Langton at Cambridge, Miranda Crocker at CUNY etc.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          There are certainly some radfems holding strong in academia but politically not so much. I did a small survey of them recently. I didn't mean to, actually. I asked to hear from female academics who felt silenced by intersectionality & most were radfems. Well, gender critical.

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        4. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          But how did you carry out your survey? If you asked on Twitter, then you are back to the problem of you replacing your Twitter followers for what's going on out there.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          No, I posted in on various academic sites. The fact that the radfem responses came in altogether makes me think it got posted on one of their sites. They are certainly not representative of my followers.

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        6. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          Yes, such sampling methods are hardly scientific, but I strongly suspect you know that. I accept that you might not have had budget or the will for something more scientific.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          And it's very small. 76 people. I stressed this at the beginning and the end.

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        1. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          *Fricker

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