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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 2

      Jeremy Stangroom Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      Sorry, but this really isn't very good. Admittedly, "postmodernism" is very difficult - perhaps impossible - to summarize, but there's a lot of conflation, misunderstanding, oversimplification, etc, here.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/991684340659707905 …

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      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      I felt the need to make this. I am meant to be working but I think that making this will save much time currently spent answering this question. pic.twitter.com/vQqyL9Hiw5
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 3
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp

      But this isn't a summary of postmodernism. That was my point. Critics of 'Postmodernism' are really criticising a few ideas which originate from it. Or do you think they're criticising something else? I know some like to conflate it with Marxism.

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Having said that... Standpoint theory, for example, isn't postmodernist. It's Marxist originally. Lukacs-->Hartsock. Actually, Twitter is hopeless for this sort of thing, so I'll shut up! 😀😀😀

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    4. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @HPluckrose

      You are completely correct, Jeremy. Standpoint epistemology has roots in Marxism. It is associated with socialist feminists.Those such as Hartsock accept an objective view. Postmodernist feminist epistemology doesn't. More traditional feminist epistemology (consciousness raising)

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      I don't think people are criticising the radfems much right now tho. It isn't them doing what people are criticising under the name of 'postmodernism' tho some like to throw 'neo-Marxism' and 'cultural Marxism' in there wrongly. They mean the whole 'diversity' 'ID politics' thing

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    6. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      I'm not sure I agree with you. When you say "people", who do you mean? The rad fems have their own critique of postmodernism. This paper by MacKinnon is where I would start. https://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3210&context=cklawreview …

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      I mean people opposed to identity politics generally. Left-liberals, centrists, conservatives (tho they're inclined to conflate Marxism & postmodernism), libertarians. Nonfeminists or liberal feminists. My readership, essentially. I'm not talking abt radfems.

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        2. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          Yes, but your readership is not necessarily the academic world. You might want to look at Susan Hekman's postmodernist critique of Standpoint theory and the subsequent debate on that paper. The paper, "Truth and Method: Feminist Standdpont Theory Revisited" was published...

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          That seems like a non-sequitur. You are right that my readership is not predominantly academic and so this is unlikely to interest them as much as the ideas which are travelling into activism, leftist social conscience and wider society. The ones they see.

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        4. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          Yes, I suspect my own sources, which are academic sources, are not ones that your average Twitter activist would have bother reading.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          No, and yet the ideas which are affecting them are academic in origin so this is my reading. But I am reading Crenshaw, Butler, Applebaum, Medina, Dotson etc to address primarily intersectionality which is dominant now in feminism.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          People are still mostly working on universal liberalism which tries to make identity irrelevant & level the playing field & the marketplace of ideas where we accept other people's right to their views but argue with them. The current phenomenon seems inconsistent & hypocritical

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          So I am trying to break down the intersectional mindset and this is what this was about. I've been calling it 'postmodern' because it does stem from there but this causes too much confusion & justified accusations of reductionism so I'm not sure what to call it.pic.twitter.com/z0kg2v04ho

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        2. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          Sorry my last post crossed.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          Yep, I am aiming this at my twitter following. Apparently, its only about 1/4 academics and politically diverse but not too far from centre and mostly concerned about problems on the intersectional left, often because they are left and think it is going wrong. Some radfems!

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        4. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          I think you waste too much time on the Twitterati. ;)

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          I think I do most good here! I'm trying to get people to be more liberal and less polarised and some tell me I have. I am addressing the ideas affecting political culture & activism & they come from intersectionality, postcolonialism, queer theory & critical race theory mostly.

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        6. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          Yes, they are more likely to be inclined to postmodernism. An odd bunch.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          Very much so. When I was a liberal feminist, I used to argue with the radfems and the Marxists. Now this current insanity has arisen and is drawing on postmodern intersectional feminism and identity-based fields which draw on postmodernism, we often find ourselves in alliance.

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

          The radfems and the Marxists do indeed have their own criticisms of postmodernism and I have raised them at times to try to clear up misconceptions my followers - people who fall into the broadest category of liberal mostly - have that radfems & or Marxists are postmodern.

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