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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Having said that... Standpoint theory, for example, isn't postmodernist. It's Marxist originally. Lukacs-->Hartsock. Actually, Twitter is hopeless for this sort of thing, so I'll shut up! 😀😀😀

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 3
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp

      Standpoint theory appears most strongly right now in feminist epistemology from the likes of Dotson and Fricker and is rooted in critical race theory and intersectionality which are figured (by Crenshaw) as linking contemporary politics with postmodern theory.

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    3. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      This really isn't the place for this conversation, but somebody like Harding, for example, explicitly contrasts standpoint theory and feminist postmodernism. Fricker explicitly rejects what she calls reductivist approaches...

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    4. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 3
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @HPluckrose

      and she sees standpoint theory as being Marxist. This is what she told me: "The idea we structure the world, but that that "we" is not unified and equal... is originally a Marxist, rather than postmodern, idea. In feminism, standpoint theory has taken this basic template...)

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    5. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @HPluckrose

      Standpoint theory is absolutely rooted in Marxism. I'm happy to scan in relevant pages from Hartsock book on the matter. It's clear.

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    6. Jeremy Stangroom‏ @PhilosophyExp May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @HPluckrose

      Yes, that's what I was saying. It's not postmodern, it's saying that a woman's standpoint = epidemiological advantage allowing them to discern real relations/structures.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @PhilosophyExp @MacDworkin

      It really isn't the issue if standpoint theory originated with postmodernism. Clearly, it predates both PoMo and Marxism and goes back at least to Hegel. This is the epistemology used in intersectional feminism tho which is where I said it is seen most strongly.

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    8. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      Standpoint feminist theorists trace their ideology back to Marx. See as an example Nancy Hartsock, "Money, Sex and Power," (Northeastern University Press, 1985), pp. 231-4 (Attached).pic.twitter.com/ZpY1LAnJoo

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    9. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

      Although, I can clarify, Harding (Whose Science? Whose Knowledge? P.120) notes Hegel.pic.twitter.com/XuQgyeAFV5

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      This does seem to be an argument about the intellectual origins of standpoint theory tho which is certainly tangentially related to my point but it isn't what people are criticising as postmodernism and so isn't part of my list trying to break that down.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 8
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MacDworkin @PhilosophyExp

      What people are criticising is much more in line with the ideas of people like Butler, Bailey, Wolf, Applebaum, DiAngelo and Medina tho I am not suggesting they have read any of them. White/male privilege, W/M fragility, W/M complicity/ignorance, heteronormativity, cisnormativity

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        1. MacDworkin‏ @MacDworkin May 8
          Replying to @HPluckrose @PhilosophyExp

          You keep referring to "people" and I'm not sure who you mean. Do you mean the general people involved in Twitter conversations or academics?

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