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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Oh, I fully admit that it’s likely they chose pork to piss off the Muslims, but it’s a good lesson. If you’re going to come to a country and beg for them to help you, you don’t get to complain with the help you get.

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    2. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
      Replying to @Nephanor @HPluckrose

      They are being given free food. Try can either eat it and be grateful for the charity, or complain that it’s not up to their “standards”. And if you are in a position to complain about the charity you are getting, you don’t really need it.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
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      Again, not the point. This is the point. https://twitter.com/StaaarFiiish/status/993156742451269632 …

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    4. Staaaarfish.‏ @StaaarFiiish May 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Nephanor

      To illustrate this further say tomorrow all Muslims decide that pork is OK to eat but kept everything else the same would Generation Identity go out of their way to find some other food Muslims refuse to eat to hand out? It's really strange to think about.

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    5. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
      Replying to @StaaarFiiish @HPluckrose

      Possibly, but in the end it provides two lessons. 1. Accept what charity you are given or admit you aren’t actually in need. 2. You may need to change your values to live in a new country. It also fed those in actual need, so I see what they were doing.

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    6. Staaaarfish.‏ @StaaarFiiish May 6
      Replying to @Nephanor @HPluckrose

      I'm not saying there's no benefit to it, I'm merely saying it's disturbing and shows an underlying hatred for Muslims that they'd choose a more expensive meat just to spite them. I hate Islam I think it's opressive but I don't go out my way to spite believers in need.

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    7. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
      Replying to @StaaarFiiish @HPluckrose

      Depends on where you are. Not sure about England, but pork is on par with beef here. Chicken is slightly more expensive.

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    8. Staaaarfish.‏ @StaaarFiiish May 6
      Replying to @Nephanor @HPluckrose

      I think pork is more expensive. If they bought it because it's the cheapest and they can feed more mouths fair enough but given the groups aims and objectives I doubt it. The crux of the matter is are they deliberately aiming to exclude homeless Muslims? If so it's kind of shit

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
      Replying to @StaaarFiiish @Nephanor

      Yes, that is the crux. The shittiness would be obvious if they were serving regional speciality foods like highly-spiced dishes or dog or goats brains that many Brits find hard to stomach and saying 'If you're not hungry enough to eat that, you're not really in need.'

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    10. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @StaaarFiiish

      All we know is that it was pork, we don’t know how it was prepared, and I know of a couple traditional British pork dishes. My grandma used to make them for us, I miss her and her cooking

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
      Replying to @Nephanor @StaaarFiiish

      There are lots of traditional pork dishes. There aren't traditional dog or brain dishes. That was the point. I'm bored now. I have made my point. If you don't get it, you don't.

      9:37 AM - 6 May 2018
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        2. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
          Replying to @HPluckrose @StaaarFiiish

          Oh, I get what you’re trying to say, just pointing out that making it into a thing only serves their purposes. So if you don’t like it, that’s fine. But bringing attention to it only helps them.

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        3. Staaaarfish.‏ @StaaarFiiish May 6
          Replying to @Nephanor @HPluckrose

          I don't think it will help them, I think it's a fairly neutral observation to say "if they're doing it out of spite it's a bit shit" what would help them is if they were arrested or something for it, that would make them into martyrs for the cause.

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        4. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
          Replying to @StaaarFiiish @HPluckrose

          They are playing identity politics. And to those playing, being a victim is the greatest victory. By criticizing them they can play the victim in the same way feminists do when you criticize them. So it’s best to just ignore their stunts. They did a deed. Whoopiedoo

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