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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Generation Identity London

    So, clearly a way to help homeless Londoners while ensuring you don't accidentally help any who are Muslim or Jewish.https://twitter.com/GenIdenLondon/status/990161740238409728 …

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    Generation Identity London @GID_London
    Activists were out feeding the homeless of London last night. Warm pork meals and other items were gratefully received by those abandoned by their government, who sends money to superpowers like China rather than spending it on their fellow countrymen. #GenerationIdentity pic.twitter.com/pTR2IaPkgz
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      2. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Here’s the thing, if a homeless person puts their religion ahead of their own survival, that’s a choice. No one is forcing them to not eat it.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
        Replying to @Nephanor

        That's not the thing at all.

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      4. Nephanor PhD PROvert‏ @Nephanor May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Were they actively asking the religion of the person they were giving it to?

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
        Replying to @Nephanor

        No, don't need to. I'm not a fan of religion and silly food restrictions. It's not the point here tho.

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      6. gee dubya :D‏ @gary_worden May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Nephanor

        Though, The Salvation Army would always slip chapter and verse in with their 'kindness'.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
        Replying to @gary_worden @Nephanor

        I don't know why that's 'though.'

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      8. gee dubya :D‏ @gary_worden May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Nephanor

        Their charity was (to varying degrees at various times) conditional... certainly in the earlier period, beneficiaries would normally have been required to attend a service and / or work. So, depending on your degree of objection to hocus-pocus, that's why it gets a 'though'.

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      9. gee dubya :D‏ @gary_worden May 6
        Replying to @gary_worden @HPluckrose @Nephanor

        ... because I find that kind of conditionality more objectionable.

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      2. Chihuahua Books™‏ @Pablo_Chihuahua May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What would your view be on a religious charity feeding stunned meat to vegetarian homeless?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 6
        Replying to @Pablo_Chihuahua

        I don't have one.

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      4. Chihuahua Books™‏ @Pablo_Chihuahua May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fair enough.

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      2. Tormod MacLeoid‏ @TMacleoid May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        1) I find the Generation Identity imagery fascinating. They laud the ideals of the elitist Spartan warriors, who lost at Thermopylae, and look down on the ideals of the "democratic" Athenian rowers, who won at Artemisium. Yes, I know both were slaveholding societies.

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      3. Tormod MacLeoid‏ @TMacleoid May 6
        Replying to @TMacleoid @HPluckrose

        2) However, their ideals differed greatly, and I find any group who knowingly celebrate the Spartan ethos unconditionally, as these guys seem to do, deeply worrying. Also, anyone who knows anything about the Spartans, should know about the Krypteia, their terror squads, that

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      4. Tormod MacLeoid‏ @TMacleoid May 6
        Replying to @TMacleoid @HPluckrose

        3) kept the uppity slaves in line. All of this is before you get to how the Spartan training worked, which involved systematic pederasty according to Plutarch. So next time you meet one, ask them why, when they complain about terror and grooming gangs they use the Spartan symbol.

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      1. Sarah Brown‏ @SarahAB_UK May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Or vegetarians.

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      2. Coffee Lance‏ @coffeelance May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        @AubreyHolloman @GenIdenLondon As my granddad said, beggars can’t be choosers. If I were hungry in Vietnam, I’d eat dog meat.

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      1. Suzy Lebovitz‏ @suzylebo May 7
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        Ugh

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      1. Dvoira Yanovsky‏ @DvoiraY May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        LMAFO!pic.twitter.com/LtsL7SyVcb

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      1. apiary goer‏ @Delca_Dot May 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ah, these guys are popping up in Hungary, too. Not very fond of their presence. Fortunately all they do yet is sticker up the lamp post. And theyre heavily beaten in this game every time by MKKP (joke party).

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