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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 5

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    I think I've just been accused of ableism for saying I'm trying to lose weight so my organs start working properly again and I'm not in imminent danger of death. I'm being accused of a lot of things I haven't said or done but she really, really wants to be mad at someone.https://twitter.com/zoupmachine/status/992885717012484098 …

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    Replying to @HPluckrose @Mikebrando2
    The fact that you don't understand the difference between talking about creating the space for people to get healthy versus just demanding people get healthy is problematic. Also, holy shit ableism. Goodbye.
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 5

        The strangest thing about that was she's saying exactly the same thing as me - don't shame obese people but encourage & make it easier for them to eat more healthily and exercise more - and this is exactly what got me called fatphobic and accused of fatshaming.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose May 5

        Also, I think I, a fat & disabled person, have just been called fatphobic and ableist by someone with thin & able-bodied privilege. Good thing I don't think thin & able-bodied privilege are real things.

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      2. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "Holy shit, ableism". You shocked her. She cannot believe how cluelessly ablist you were. She hadn't heard someone say they want their organs to function properly since the 1950s. What year is this? Holy shit!

        3 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
      3. Sir Barken Hyena‏ @cacealian May 5
        Replying to @Evolving_Ego @HPluckrose

        Wanting your organs to function is just narcissism

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      2. Sean H.‏ @seanh78 May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I do love the optimism of those who think its easier to change a society's beauty and health standards than to take any proactive steps themselves.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. Grievxnce Scholxr‏ @Kvos77 May 5
        Replying to @seanh78 @HPluckrose

        Hell, the health standards are set by human biology and they still that's the way to go instead of asking fat people to make non-destructive choices. I sense decades of wasted government spending ahead...en route to the realization that it's better just to shame people.

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      2. James Greville‏ @jimigrev May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You can safely ignore anyone who uses the word "problematic" unironically

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Matt‏ @MatthewGalanty May 5
        Replying to @jimigrev @HPluckrose

        I also tend to brace myself when I read a sentence starting with "the fact that you don't understand..." which is an indicator I'm about to hear some category 10 moral posturing

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Catharine Zivkovic‏ @ccziv May 6
        Replying to @MatthewGalanty @jimigrev @HPluckrose

        Definitely. I know I have to brace myself when that particular preface comes charging out of my daughter's mouth.

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      2. Tony H #ScrewEU‏ @The_Morningstar May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I've been told that I can't be really disabled and not support Corbyn, I've even been blocked by so called disabled friends for not supporting labour/corbyn... I also got abuse from disabled people for voting for brexit... I'm used to the abuse now.

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. Tony H #ScrewEU‏ @The_Morningstar May 5
        Replying to @The_Morningstar @HPluckrose

        Before I forget, I also got abuse from the disability officer of the CLP for not supporting corbyn.

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      1. Daniel Fischer‏ @DanielF33358828 May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I wonder if people who use the word "problematic" in this way know what a cliché is.

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      1. Quantum Potato  🐻‏ @OrumusST May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        F em! You go get yourself healthy! I'm rooting for you cause I've been there. Overweight and was causing health issues. It was really hard work but after about a year not only did I lose that weight but I developed a routine and diet I could stick to.

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      1. Robin‏ @fishdocrls May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose @jessesingal

        Don’t feed the trolls. It makes them pushy.

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      2. Mike‏ @citation_needed May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        She’s obviously been drinking.

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      3. Pallor Ergo Doom‏ @SlagOffTwits May 5
        Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

        STOP DRUNK SHAMING! *hic*

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      4. Mike‏ @citation_needed May 5
        Replying to @SlagOffTwits @HPluckrose

        I never specified alcohol.

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      5. Pallor Ergo Doom‏ @SlagOffTwits May 5
        Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

        None for me then, thanks.

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      2. Samantha Jane Geimer‏ @sjgeimer May 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        not a fan of the whole ableist thing, maybe I just don't understand it

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