We need to be clear what is meant when someone says 'incels.' Are we talking abt individuals who get together online & plan & celebrate violence against women? If so, of course, we must regard them as dangerous ideologically-motivated criminals/potential criminals/collaborators
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What is essential is not conflating all of these individuals into greater or lesser manifestations of the same thing as is so commonly seen now and instead saying precisely what you mean.
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Ok. I'm with you so far up to this point, specifically. What does it mean for any man to consider themselves involuntarily celibate? The very term itself invokes a self-serving definition.
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Well, it means someone who isn't in a sexual relationship but would like to be.
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Does this deserve a name? It's a normal state of affairs, not a medical condition. The name suggests entitlement.
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Incels are what they call themselves when they form communities. I don't think it's possible to take that away.
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Well, some do. Most young men in this position aren't so pretentious. I'd like to think I wouldn't've been. I'll continue to criticise the use of this label.
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That is what the movement/community is called. Of course,most men in this position don't join it. It's a specific movement we are talking about. It's horrible. Lots of threats on violence against women who they refer to as 'femoids'. Fantasies about cutting pregnant women in half
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I think I'll stick with "so-called incels", cf. "so-called IS".
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This last one is me: women just aren’t attracted to me. I’ve occasionally made jokes about it, but never joined groups of men and whined about it. Does that make me ‘inincel’: involuntary involuntary-celibate?!
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