I totally agree, but we need a more compelling alternative. Very few frameworks on the left see young men as anything but the enemy, or a creature born with the worst kind of original sin known, born sick but commanded to be well, whose nature is a disease to overcome.
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Replying to @DaddyD0dd @lucasjlynch and
Most of the lefties I know do not see men this way at all. But then, we’ve been doing a lot to help them understand moral luck and the social conditioning behind reified gender norms.
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Replying to @DaddyD0dd @ETVPod and
There’s no nice way to tell people their slowly waning status is undeserved, their parents taught them wrong and the ideas in their head meat make the world dangerous for women and minorities.
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Replying to @DaddyD0dd @ETVPod and
We are talking about *men* They have a variety of statuses, parents and ideas.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @ETVPod and
The question was specifically how do we provide an alternative that is more appealing than JBP. JBP is a charlatan that feeds men of slowly waning social status what they want to hear. We have nothing they’ll want to hear.
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Replying to @DaddyD0dd @ETVPod and
I think we do. I don't support the dark, ugly, 'original sin' rhetoric going on about masculinity right now and neither do most liberals. We can still value men as highly as women without Jungian archetypes and biblical woo.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @ETVPod and
Men who object to the demonisation of their sex are not wrong to do so. It is a horrible, hateful, socially-sanctioned form of bigotry. Feminism is a very powerful, cultural force right now and there is little recourse against it when it gets hateful. The left needs to fix this
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Replying to @HPluckrose @lucasjlynch and
The left IS that. They can't FIX that.
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And the right are all Nazis! This is so productive and will absolutely help us move forward and stabilise society. History shows that 'Everybody with different views to me is evil' has always worked out so well.
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