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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Michael Flood

      If the claim is that men are oppressive, entitled, misogynistic & violent, then clearly #NotAtllMen #VeryFewMen #FFS If the claim is that men can be perceived as oppressive, entitled, misogynistic & violent just for existing by this kind of feminist, then #YesAllMenhttps://twitter.com/MichaelGLFlood/status/990543996811333632 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Michael Flood @MichaelGLFlood
      Think It’s #NotAllMen? 4 reasons why that’s wrong. (2) All violations (big & small) are part of the same unjust system. https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/think-its-notallmen-these-4-facts-prove-youre-just-plain-wrong/ … via @RadicalBodyLove
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      It's claims 2 & 3 that worry me the most. All violations (big & small) are part of the same unjust system? The example here is that a man who feels hurt by rejection is experiencing the same sense of entitlement as a man who commits sexual violence. This is incredibly dangerous.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      The slippery slope goes: Feeling hurt by rejection & going away Feeling hurt by rejection & being abusive in response Refusing to accept rejection & forcing sexual advances on women - sexual assault. The difference between feelings, words & actions is lost. This must not happen.

      4 replies 3 retweets 38 likes
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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      "The impact of your actions is more significant than the intent" - This is obviously directly contradictory to the one above in which the impact of the rejection on the man was to make him feel hurt but that emotional reaction shows he's part of the problem.

      2 replies 3 retweets 23 likes
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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      He's not allowed to have feelings of hurt because he's a man. Meanwhile, any feelings a woman or racial or sexual minority has in response to any action of a person perceived as privileged are immediately legitimate & the privileged person must take responsibility for them.

      3 replies 6 retweets 31 likes
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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      The idea that whether or not we need to take responsibility for what we do and what we feel depends on whether we are considered to be privileged or marginalised rather than whether it is ethical/reasonable to do is an appalling one.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29

      This is why I am beginning to think we need to stop saying 'postmodernism' which is too broad & easily confused and find a term just for this epistemology which works on a perception of society dominated by discourses of power in which knowledge & ethics are positional & relative

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    8. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Apr 29
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It's a mistake to think of this as an epistemology. If you do that they have you.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29
      Replying to @colwight

      Well, I don't think it's a valid one. But how else do I address the epistemological problems?

      6:47 AM - 29 Apr 2018
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        2. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Apr 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Call it a world view. But as humans we only have a certain number of ways to know the world. Empiricism, rationalism, pragmatism, conventionalism, standpoint. Mostly, you'll find all approaches use an ad mixture of many of these. 1/

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29
          Replying to @colwight

          This is standpoint.

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        4. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Apr 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          No, it's not just standpoint. It makes ontological claims and that's where the real differences are.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29
          Replying to @colwight

          The epistemology does?

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        6. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Apr 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          No, epistemology asks questions about the nature of knowledge, where does knowledge come from etc... You can make all sorts of claims about the world, the epistemological question is how do you know your claims are correct. I've got $20 in my wallet. How do I know that...

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29
          Replying to @colwight

          Yes, thank you. I know what epistemology is. This was why I was asking how it can also be ontology. Never mind. Clearly some wires crossed. This is the epistemology I am referring to.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02691728.2013.782585 …

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        8. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Apr 29
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That's exactly why you shouldn't use the term. I know that piece, and hundreds of others like it. By using it that way you're stepping into their universe and giving them the high ground and following their confusion. It's a category error.

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 29
          Replying to @colwight

          No, I don't think so. I think we can show the problem with epistemologies like faith and standpoint theory as epistemologies without giving them any kind of highground.

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