This sounds a lot like feminists too though. In all groups, you will find the reasonable and the unreasonable, those who are hateful and those who are hurting, those who can be reached and those who cannot.
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The difference is that feminists aren’t driving trucks into crowds.
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Nearly everyone isn't driving trucks into crowds. I think people who drive trucks into crowds deserve their own category.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @ILoveUTigerLily and
You were talking about people who form unhealthy, resentful & angry ideological groups online. My suggestion was that some members of them will be reachable and some won't whether feminist or incel or whatever.
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That’s true, but when the violence starts spilling out into the real world (and this isn’t the first time it’s happened) we need to start figuring out why it’s happening and stop it. Feminists aren’t hurting anybody except for some right wing feelings.
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Yes! We do. This will prevent mass blame of whole groups. Here in London, we have to have big concrete bollards now to stop people driving vans into crowds. We don't blame all Muslims for this. Feminists are hurting lots of people, men & women, coz they have great cultural power
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Feminism didn’t do this to these boys. I have a really simple experiment to prove it. Go to /r9k/ (http://boards.4chan.org/r9k/ ) If just the threads themselves isn’t revealing to you, start a new thread and ask “why haven’t any of you tried dating an overweight or black girl”
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Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @HPluckrose and
Watch the replies - this doesn’t have anything to do with feminism. This is evil people doing evil things with no accountability and you’re up here making excuses for them.
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Except I'm not. Saying that we should reach out & try to help feminists and incel types who are getting radicalised and becoming misandrist or misogynist does not indicate that we should excuse the hateful who act on it causing harm to others, does it?
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Reaching out doesn’t do anything for these people. I’ve been reaching out to people on /r9k/ for years. Any lesson of personal responsibility is immediately discarded.
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And this is where we came in and I compared this attitude of hateful self-victimising & hypo-agency to that of feminism.
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