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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      This sounds a lot like feminists too though. In all groups, you will find the reasonable and the unreasonable, those who are hateful and those who are hurting, those who can be reached and those who cannot.

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    2. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      The difference is that feminists aren’t driving trucks into crowds.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      Nearly everyone isn't driving trucks into crowds. I think people who drive trucks into crowds deserve their own category.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ILoveUTigerLily and

      You were talking about people who form unhealthy, resentful & angry ideological groups online. My suggestion was that some members of them will be reachable and some won't whether feminist or incel or whatever.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      That’s true, but when the violence starts spilling out into the real world (and this isn’t the first time it’s happened) we need to start figuring out why it’s happening and stop it. Feminists aren’t hurting anybody except for some right wing feelings.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      Yes! We do. This will prevent mass blame of whole groups. Here in London, we have to have big concrete bollards now to stop people driving vans into crowds. We don't blame all Muslims for this. Feminists are hurting lots of people, men & women, coz they have great cultural power

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    7. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt @neoliberal_dad

      Feminism didn’t do this to these boys. I have a really simple experiment to prove it. Go to /r9k/ (http://boards.4chan.org/r9k/ ) If just the threads themselves isn’t revealing to you, start a new thread and ask “why haven’t any of you tried dating an overweight or black girl”

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    8. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
      Replying to @thehouyhnhnm @HPluckrose and

      Again, feminists aren’t committing mass murders. This is the second one directly attributable to this culture in the last 5 years. Who knows how many it’s influenced. If feminists were driving trucks into crowds then yeah we’d need to take a look at that too.

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    9. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @thehouyhnhnm and

      And go on the site! These guys aren’t saying “hey, maybe we should tone it down”. They’re celebrating the killings!

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @thehouyhnhnm and

      Yes, they are extremist loons and this needs addressing. This is not a point of disagreement between us. Perhaps it would help if I go back to the Muslim example. Wld you agree that Muslims who drive vans into ppl are inexcusable but some being radicalised can be helped?

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        2. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose @thehouyhnhnm and

          Yeah, you take away their gathering places - don’t host ISIS websites, block ISIS from social media, etc. That’s the thing with attacks like these - they’re virtue signaling their peers. Take away the signal, you take away the motivation to kill.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
          Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @thehouyhnhnm and

          Yes, murderous groups can certainly be banned. Not normal feminist and misogynist ones tho, no matter how hateful, if they're not threatening violence. Better to have it out in the open.

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        4. Stereotype Accuracy Denier‏ @ILoveUTigerLily Apr 25
          Replying to @HPluckrose @thehouyhnhnm and

          The mysogynist ones I’m pointing to ARE threatening violence. They threaten, they have a history of following through, and they cheer and call for more when an attack happens. These groups need to be wiped out.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 25
          Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @thehouyhnhnm and

          Then we don't disagree on them. But you're clearly not going to address the point I am actually making where I think we might disagree so I am going to leave it here.

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