You can’t have honest conversations when one side is in bad faith. You try to have honest conversations with these kids and they act like you threw acid at them. They’ve been fed this comforting lie that it’s everyone else’s fault and they won’t accept responsibility.
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This sounds a lot like feminists too though. In all groups, you will find the reasonable and the unreasonable, those who are hateful and those who are hurting, those who can be reached and those who cannot.
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The difference is that feminists aren’t driving trucks into crowds.
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Nearly everyone isn't driving trucks into crowds. I think people who drive trucks into crowds deserve their own category.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @ILoveUTigerLily and
You were talking about people who form unhealthy, resentful & angry ideological groups online. My suggestion was that some members of them will be reachable and some won't whether feminist or incel or whatever.
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That’s true, but when the violence starts spilling out into the real world (and this isn’t the first time it’s happened) we need to start figuring out why it’s happening and stop it. Feminists aren’t hurting anybody except for some right wing feelings.
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Yes! We do. This will prevent mass blame of whole groups. Here in London, we have to have big concrete bollards now to stop people driving vans into crowds. We don't blame all Muslims for this. Feminists are hurting lots of people, men & women, coz they have great cultural power
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Feminism didn’t do this to these boys. I have a really simple experiment to prove it. Go to /r9k/ (http://boards.4chan.org/r9k/ ) If just the threads themselves isn’t revealing to you, start a new thread and ask “why haven’t any of you tried dating an overweight or black girl”
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Again, feminists aren’t committing mass murders. This is the second one directly attributable to this culture in the last 5 years. Who knows how many it’s influenced. If feminists were driving trucks into crowds then yeah we’d need to take a look at that too.
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We have already covered this and agreed that people who commit murder are inexcusable. We were then talking about people who form nasty online groups and post hateful things about a certain demographic. That is the behaviour we are discussing & the people I am suggesting helping.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @ILoveUTigerLily and
Obviously, we should help murderers to but mostly by detecting them and locking them up.
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