Well, yes. We need to be able to separate arguments about whether organisations have the right to be sexist etc from criticisms of whether they are being so. Same principle with no-platform policies. As soon as you criticise one, ppl will tell you its their right. https://twitter.com/LotakX/status/986896546548633601 …
The only time anyone ever advocates freedom of speech it's in relation to one law in one country about what governments can do? No-one ever says 'We shouldn't bully or punish people who say things we don't like and we should be open to a wide range of ideas as individuals.
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Ok, in that sense I'm in favor of punishing(if that means firing) people who say things I think are wrong, so at least we're getting somewhere. The Kevin Williams and Damore instances comes to mind.
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I'm not going to argue with you about this today. I am trying to reduce stress. Some of us got here a long time ago. Hope you get fired for saying something someone thinks is wrong. Your views won't always be in fashion.
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Helen, Where do you think this modern leftist obsession with punishing, instead of persuading, comes from? It's incredibly medieval in nature.
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Ideologues left/right view the word through morality lenses, if you don't agree with them it must be because you are immoral. Because they are moral. Immoral people are dangerous to maintaining moral good.. therefore must be cleansed.
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It sounds medieval because it is, it's an emotional rather than rational perspective.
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Although actually I think Damore was right, but I'm still glad he got fired. I should say firing people who are right but have the wrong cultural allegiances as well.
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