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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19

      Some people won't even let you agree with them. Well, they do, but once you have, they think everything that needs to be said on a topic is covered and if you try to expand, they think you've stopped agreeing with them and need to be brought back to the point.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19

      This happens mostly with Islam & trans issues, I find. Ppl think 'Islamism is bad' and 'trans activists can be authoritarian loons' is all that needs to be said on the subjects. If you agree with that but think there's more to say abt the rights of Muslims & trans people...

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19

      If I agree that some awful human rights abuses are inspired by & justified within Islam, but then go on to say that we can address this without abandoning liberal & reforming Muslims or encouraging anti-Muslim bigotry, I'll be accused of having forgotten the first bit.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19

      If I agree there's some awful authoritarianism and irrationalism in trans activism & that this has influence on society but go on to say trans people & trans activists are not the same thing & there is still significant prejudice, I'll be accused of having forgotten the first bit

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        2. Scabbie  🎃‏ @heyheyitsabbie Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I agree. Also, the conflation of trans people and trans activists is often what's most harmful to trans people. People see a trans person and think "they want to erase gender / make my hypothetical 3 year old learn about cross-dressing" etc and forget that although there... 1/2

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        3. Scabbie  🎃‏ @heyheyitsabbie Apr 19
          Replying to @heyheyitsabbie @HPluckrose

          ...are people who believe that, many of whom are authoritarian loons, the majority of us just want to live our lives in peace without people trying to grab our genitals or start an argument with us in the street. 2/2

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        4. SadCowHat mst‏ @shadowcat_mst Apr 19
          Replying to @heyheyitsabbie @HPluckrose

          IME the sensible trans people I know facepalm harder at the authoritarian loons than anybody else.

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        5. Scabbie  🎃‏ @heyheyitsabbie Apr 19
          Replying to @shadowcat_mst @HPluckrose

          Oh believe me, when I see a "woke" trans parent who says they couldn't love a cisgender child or some nonsense like that it makes me weep for trans activism. For some reason we seem to have inherited a larger number of total idiots than other causes.

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        1. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Of course trans people & trans activism are not the same & there is still significant prejudice. Where we differ, and that is quite OK, is that I think the "loons "are more influential & dangerous than you do.

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        1. Luke McElligott #FBPE #waton‏ @LukeMcElligott1 Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You are labouring under the illusion that people want a discussion. Most of them just want to make their point and don't really care about your side or exploring concepts or to and fro. You have my sympathies.

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