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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      You don't see any issue with biologically male & female teens showering naked together, when the only criteria is self-identity? Why should everyone else be forced to accept the expression of a minority without question? Isn't this imposing a (utopian) ideology on everyone else?

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      We wrote this about it but I have already said I support the right to change privately. Do teens shower naked together anyway? Never did at my school or my daughters. Kids want privacy generally.https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ …

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    3. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      For sure... But what I'm specifically raising is this bizarre science-denying ideological insistence that biological sex is irrelevant, that gender is solely in one's head, and that those who even remotely question any aspect of this is some sort of trans hating fascist...

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      That's what we wrote about. The science-denial on both sides of the debate. Those who claim reproductive systems are not indications of biological sex and those who claim they are the only indication of biological sex and ignore brains and hormones.

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    5. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      Who's claiming "reproductive systems" are the only indiction of sex? Women are discriminated against because they are women, whether or not they have working reproductive systems. Denying that - the core of contemporary trans activism - seems very strange to me.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      Trans exclusionary feminists who deny that gender differences exist in the brain and claim gender to be entirely a cultural construct. Conservatives who claim that reproductive systems alone are what decide gender and ignore massive evidence of brain differences in trans people.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      And that arguments doesn't work anyway. If someone is inclined to discriminate against women, they're unlikely to check the contents of their knickers first so they'll discriminate against trans women as well as cis women.

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    8. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      Not so: female children are electively aborted, natal girls face FGM, child marriage, unwanted pregnancies and other factors that trans women will never face.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      I certainly agree there is discrimination against women in some countries and cultures but I am talking about my own. However, unwanted pregnancy is not discrimination.

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    10. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
      Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      Exposing biological girls to unwanted pregnancies by promoting the delusion that sex differences are all a matter of opinion is discrimination. Imposing gender ideology on society & calling dissent "hate speech" is discrimination.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
      Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

      The first bit doesn't make any sense. How do girls become more at risk of getting pregnant if they believe in trans identity? I have agreed with the second one many times.

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        2. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          Promoting "abstinence only" sex education demonstrably leads to more pregnancies. Telling kids that a biological male is a female because he says so is delusional: he (she) can still get someone pregnant, or a trans male can still get pregnant.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
          Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          If you show me that sex education now teaches kids that they can't get pregnant or make someone pregnant if they are trans, I will get on board with helping you oppose this very vigorously. I had no idea this was happening and remain skeptical that it is unless shown evidence.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          It seems out of keeping with trans activism which is much very concerned with emphasising that some men (trans men) can get pregnant and require reproductive services. It would regard any claim that (trans) boys can't get pregnant as transphobic.

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        5. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          I don't think telling kids that they can actually change biological sex is going to make the risk of unwanted pregnancy any less. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1363/psrh.12032 …pic.twitter.com/g6NktG5uWK

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
          Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          And if I ever encounter anyone claiming that people can actually change biological sex and that telling kids this acts as a contraceptive, I will be sure to point this out.

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        7. Roger D‏ @RogSat Apr 19
          Replying to @HPluckrose @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          I think the fundamental problem here is the core mantra ”transwomen are women. There is no debate”. That leads to all sorts of crazy. Imho interested in your views, trans activism must move beyond that.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 19
          Replying to @RogSat @benpobjie @CathyYoung63

          No, thank you. I have said all I wanted to say in that article so I don't have to keep having the same arguments.

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