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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Areo

      OK, tweeps, here we go. I will be responding to this shortly. Pls read with an open mind. This is a good faith perspective on benefits of postmodernism from someone who sees the problem with what many (but not he) call the postmodern left. I disagree with his take on it, ofc.https://twitter.com/AreoMagazine/status/985725463778639872 …

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      Areo @AreoMagazine
      The Necessity of Postmodernism in the Post-Truth Age https://areomagazine.com/2018/04/15/the-necessity-of-postmodernism-in-the-post-truth-age/ …
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    2. Jeroen D‏ @Yerune_D Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It starts with a strawman that PoMO is to blame for everything, then does a No True Scottsman and basically ends up saying Peterson is a PoMo for being critical. I like the jist of the article, but I don't think it reflects PostModernism (today)

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @Yerune_D

      I think he misses the mark to quite an extent. I will be responding soon.

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    4. Jeroen D‏ @Yerune_D Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      But kudo's to you, and the author, for willing to engage in this public discussion.

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    5. Doctino‏ @SpartanMindPsy Apr 16
      Replying to @Yerune_D @HPluckrose

      A major issue for me, and this is the same charge for a lot of Pomo, there are no clear definitions or articulation of different strands within Pomo offered. The author does not even define Pomo. Perhaps this is because it's too difficult to to do, and this again a problem.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @SpartanMindPsy @Yerune_D

      I think he expects people to know which debates and which aspects of postmodernism he is referring to and, in fact, we nearly all do. I addressed that in this essay in the section: Claim: There is much more to postmodernism than its critics present.https://areomagazine.com/2018/02/07/no-postmodernism-is-not-dead-and-other-misconceptions/ …

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    7. Doctino‏ @SpartanMindPsy Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Yerune_D

      With respect, this seems unreasonable and a poor assumption for an article defending it. I have studied discourse analysis and social constructivism during my phd and there are as many theories as there are Pomo academics. It's opaque and convoluted.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @SpartanMindPsy @Yerune_D

      Yes, I addressed that in my piece. It is better to see critics of postmodernism as working backwards from specific problems to their cause. We do need a better name for people who still seem confused about what is being criticised. @thesadredearth suggested 'New Logocentrism.;

      6:00 PM - 16 Apr 2018
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        1. Doctino‏ @SpartanMindPsy Apr 17
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Yerune_D @thesadredearth

          That might be one of the best discussion and analysis of post modernism I have ever read. You do an excellent job of offering definitions and broad differences which really helped.

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        1. Doctino‏ @SpartanMindPsy Apr 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Yerune_D @thesadredearth

          Just reading your piece now. Thanks for the links and thanks for publishing pieces from both sides of the argument. Though like you I do believe this misses the mark.

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        2. Tristan Naramore‏ @tritisan Apr 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @SpartanMindPsy and

          Are neologocentrists no different than traditionalists who believe the world was literally created by speech?

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        3. A. Jay Adler‏ @thesadredearth Apr 17
          Replying to @tritisan @HPluckrose and

          I'd say rather that logocentrism in the Judeo-Christian tradition expresses the metaphorical "worid"-creating power of language. 1/3

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