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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16

      It's single issue, tribal (deal with it), people who do this. They associate a whole range of positions to you based on one tweet because they genuinely can't understand that someone could not pick a team and take on all their positions at once.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16

      I once questioned the claim that men earn more because women avoid dirty jobs by pointing out that caring jobs involving much cleaning up of bodily waste are done primarily by women. (I thought the people/things divide much more significant)

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    3. Ⓨⓐⓣⓘⓜⓐ Ⓞⓕ Ⓚⓞⓝⓘⓢⓗⓘ‏ @YatimaOfKonishi Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      "Dirty jobs" is a misnomer. "Dangerous, physically demanding, painful and harmful jobs" is my intuitive description. As someone who has done both kinds of gendered "dirty" work, it is a good point to make. But I see why (typically) male dirty work is higher paying.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @YatimaOfKonishi

      I'm not sure it is significantly. I got paid a bit more working with people who not only shat on me but were also likely to beat me up, but I doubt this accounts for much.

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    5. Ⓨⓐⓣⓘⓜⓐ Ⓞⓕ Ⓚⓞⓝⓘⓢⓗⓘ‏ @YatimaOfKonishi Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Maybe relevant. I worked with violent autistic people and didn't get paid much more for it. But again, being attacked by a person and having limbs crushed or cut off or burned or being electrocuted to death or falling several stories are perhaps on another level.

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    6. Ⓨⓐⓣⓘⓜⓐ Ⓞⓕ Ⓚⓞⓝⓘⓢⓗⓘ‏ @YatimaOfKonishi Apr 16
      Replying to @YatimaOfKonishi @HPluckrose

      I have scars from being scratched and bitten. It sucks. But I have friends missing fingers or who almost died from poorly wired 3-phase industrial power mains arching plasma across the room.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @YatimaOfKonishi

      Yes, they are. I've had two lots of stitches in my head and a chipped kneecap. But I still don't think this counts for huge amounts of the reason men and women choose differently or for the earnings gap.

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    8. Ⓨⓐⓣⓘⓜⓐ Ⓞⓕ Ⓚⓞⓝⓘⓢⓗⓘ‏ @YatimaOfKonishi Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Just to be sure I'm interpreting that correctly; You don't think the danger of certain jobs accounts for men and women's choices, nor that dangerous jobs being more higher paying, accounts for much of the earnings gap?

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @YatimaOfKonishi

      No. There are few dangerous jobs and dangerous jobs are not the best paid. I think much more of it is explained by women's greater interest in working with people and men's for working with things. And, obviously, hours and parental breaks.

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    10. Ⓨⓐⓣⓘⓜⓐ Ⓞⓕ Ⓚⓞⓝⓘⓢⓗⓘ‏ @YatimaOfKonishi Apr 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      That accounts for much of it (though why jobs with "things" and jobs with people are paid differently is an issue I'd like to see explored). But I'd have to be convinced with data that danger pay isn't very relevant (my anecdotal experiences tell me otherwise) (cont'...)

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 16
      Replying to @YatimaOfKonishi

      Yes, I'd like to see data on this too.

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