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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @adamckolasinski

      Thriving. We'll be arguing about the best way to do that forever but it is basically rooted in basic common human needs. After that, for liberal humanists, there is freedom to do one's own thing as long as it harms no-one else.

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    2. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I just hope you realize that the superiority of the liberal humanist morals can't be established with empiricism alone.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @adamckolasinski

      No, I didn't because I was born yesterday and have never considered morality before ever.

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    4. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      No need to apologize. I enjoyed the exchange. I am new to your work, so i did not realize you have already gotten into lots of exchanges like this. Have a nice day!

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @adamckolasinski

      I need a Twitter break. Thanks for being understanding. I shall now chill.pic.twitter.com/OcWc2dy8CB

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    6. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Just a question 4 you after you come back from your break. Have you written anything justifying your rejection of Hume's is/ought divide? I'd love to read the argument, so please send me the reference.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @adamckolasinski

      No, because I hate this topic. The argument is that everything comes down to 'is' in the end because everything, including our morality is biologically based. But it's just too complicated and multi-faceted to trace everything back and we have to make arguments instead abt ought.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose @adamckolasinski

      We don't know enough but if you believe that the most objective morality we can get is an optimum human morality, it takes a huge number of factors to establish exactly what that is so we have to make arguments based on human wellbeing.

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    9. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Since you've not written on it, who do you think has made the best case for your position, or some close approximation to it? Sam Harris? Anyone else?

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @adamckolasinski

      Sam Harris, probably, yes. The Moral Landscape.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
      Replying to @HPluckrose @adamckolasinski

      Because 'ought' comes from human brains too and we don't choose to have morality so its appearance comes down to something that is.

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        2. Adam Kolasinski‏ @adamckolasinski Apr 15
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Maybe Harris has an answer, but if there are no oughts, only is's, then it seems the logical conclusion is nihilism. And I don't think that's where you stand. But I'll go read the book before commenting further.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
          Replying to @adamckolasinski

          No, I don't see why knowing where my morality came from indicates nihilism. We already know it is there, that we didn't chose it and that we can't lose it without a frontal lobotomy. Trying to work down to what is the best for humans is something we'll be doing forever.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 15
          Replying to @HPluckrose @adamckolasinski

          But to suggest it comes elsewhere from human brains which are essentially a load of biological facts, is not supported by evidence so there are right answers even if we never reach them. The best we can do is go with SH's premise on the wellbeing of conscious creatures & reason.

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