That makes sense, it seems honestly that we are missing a word for pragmatic truths foundbin narratives. Or maybe I am just unaware of how to articulate this idea. Thanks for the responses making me think a lot.
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Replying to @VirgilMSW @darrylrichard23
We call it pragmatic notions of truth!
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Replying to @HPluckrose @darrylrichard23
That phrase may have been what I was looking for. I have seen so many of these conversations be derailed because people can't get past agreeing on word use.
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Replying to @VirgilMSW @darrylrichard23
It's the concepts which need to be kept separate. What is evidenced and what is emotionally/morally resonant. The whole post-truth problem is about confusing these.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @darrylrichard23
I think I am following, it seems I the whole Harris Peterson debate got stuck because they wanted to use the same word to mean two different things.
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Replying to @VirgilMSW @darrylrichard23
Not really. They established they were using truth differently early on and tried to find common ground on the concepts. Still, no. Peterson favours pragmatics over facts. So do others but they do them differently to support different ends. Feminism is a main culprit.
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My epistemology is based on what is established as true through evidence. We worked on meaningful narratives that bonded people for most of history. It didn't work well.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @darrylrichard23
I would argue it worked remarkably well for survival. It seems the removal of these stories cause catastrophic events to occur. Now to create technology it has not worked well. It is not they are no longer needed, just serves different functions.
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Replying to @VirgilMSW @darrylrichard23
Do you think we survived better when we worked on mythic narratives? I don't think we did.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @darrylrichard23
I think the time scales are too small to know. But we have seen the loss of narrative lead to destruction. I think a mix of the two is ideal. Over emphasis on one or the other is limiting or potentially harmful.
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We don't lose narratives. We just change them and decide what power they have in society. The SocJus narrative is growing fast and it's scary because it has a certain amount of institutional power.
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