I think you put it better in that tweet. It is a different truth and different evidence. Those words are just so loaded, saying something irrational is almost always an insult. But you are %100 right it is not the same.
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This is the disagreement about truth between Peterson and the sceptics. His is pragmatic, theirs is evidence-based.
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Yep and as a practicing clinician I see the immense value of Peterson's idea and the harm scientific truth claims can be. I am definitely bias from my experiences and the amount of terrible science and science reporting.
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The problem with pragmatics is that they are used to support a person's own desired outcome. Science can get things wrong but is less likely to than anything else. And it's science which proves Itself wrong.
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That phrase may have been what I was looking for. I have seen so many of these conversations be derailed because people can't get past agreeing on word use.
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It's the concepts which need to be kept separate. What is evidenced and what is emotionally/morally resonant. The whole post-truth problem is about confusing these.
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I think I am following, it seems I the whole Harris Peterson debate got stuck because they wanted to use the same word to mean two different things.
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Not really. They established they were using truth differently early on and tried to find common ground on the concepts. Still, no. Peterson favours pragmatics over facts. So do others but they do them differently to support different ends. Feminism is a main culprit.
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My epistemology is based on what is established as true through evidence. We worked on meaningful narratives that bonded people for most of history. It didn't work well.
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I still like narratives. I'm a literature student not a scientist for that reason but this doesn't make the ones which are helpful to me true. It's important to recognise that.
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