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Replying to @HPluckrose
However far we come, I suspect we will always be fighting the battle for gender equity just as we will always be fighting the battle against xenophobia, because I think both these things are hardwired in. It is very early in the game to be singing post-feminist victory /end
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Replying to @quellist1
I think we'll always be trying to work gender equality out. I think we're past the point where we need to focus on it from women's perspective
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I don't think we *ever* needed to focus on it exclusively from women's perspective; IMHO, Feminism is and always has been (and should be) an issue of inclusivity. Reason why I don't want to surrender the term to divisive lunatics.
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Replying to @quellist1
I think it would do better to come at gender equality from a perspective which does not prioritise one gender, whether it's feminism or the MRM. Feminism simply does not address areas in which men are disadvantaged - eg genital integrity, criminal sentencing, victims of violence
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Sure - in an ideal world, the drill would be - spot an injustice, act to address it, regardless of victim. But historically the trend in *general* progressive movements has always been to marginalise women's concerns as secondary to The Cause (whatever that Cause happens to be)
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Can you (this is a genuine question) think of a revolutionary movement that made good on the promise of gender equity for its female component (when such a promise was even given)?
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Replying to @quellist1
??? Revolutionary movements generally don't make things happen. Changes in society do. But can you think of any which prioritised men's issues over women's? The civil rights movement? Feminism? Gay Pride?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
The American Revolution sure made things happen - women partook of the struggle, there was some muttering about emancipation along the way, and then said women got shoved back into subordinate roles as soon as the fight was won. This is a general pattern.
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??? That was nothing to do with gender equality!
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