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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. you are not your group 🦇 👻 🎃 you are you‏ @wendydoesdishes Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, there are women and transwomen. There are also men and transmen. There's nothing wrong with using those terms to accurately describe people.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @wendydoesdishes

      OK, but they are only usable by people with those views. I think I'll have to keep cisgendered when I need to differentiate because I don't want to have to use terminology I don't believe in. I'll defend your right not to have to either.

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    3. you are not your group 🦇 👻 🎃 you are you‏ @wendydoesdishes Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I'm all for freedom of speech for everyone but I seriously doubt whether transactivism will benefit in the long run from using terminology that has alienated people like me.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @wendydoesdishes

      I'm unsure what term would be appropriate tho for people who want to accept trans women as women. Can't really use terminology which implies that they are not just to please people who think that. I hope that accepting their right to disagree would be enough to keep them onside.

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    5. you are not your group 🦇 👻 🎃 you are you‏ @wendydoesdishes Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ah, I think the problem for you is not a problem for me because women are women and transwomen are transwomen. Womanhood has not been changed by their existence. I accept and embrace them as transwomen.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @wendydoesdishes

      No, probably not. And if you don't insist on people using your preferred terminology, there's no problem, really! We can just disagree.

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    7. you are not your group 🦇 👻 🎃 you are you‏ @wendydoesdishes Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      For sure. But I will never accept the word "cis" nor support those who use it.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @wendydoesdishes

      The last bit is a shame. I try to support people regardless of their terminology provided they don't insist other people must use it too.

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    9. you are not your group 🦇 👻 🎃 you are you‏ @wendydoesdishes Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I can't support groups that dismiss me any more. This is a difficult conversation for me & I'm confused as to why you're pushing this agenda so hard with so little consideration for the value of the life experiences of people formerly known as women. You can call me an fka woman.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @wendydoesdishes

      I'm sorry! We don't have to talk about it ever again, if you don't want to. I just saw your tweet and have been wondering about terminology. I thought you might have a better word. I didn't know that you had any particular position on this.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose @wendydoesdishes

      And I'm not pushing any agenda hard. I want people to be able to define gender how they want so I get called a terf and delusional trans activist often. I have consideration for other women's life experiences and values but am mostly guided by my own.

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