You keep conflating social and legal outcomes. Police being more diligent in investigating reports (and not leaving rape kits to rot in store rooms for decades...) would help the legal side. But society doesn't operate on "beyond a reasonable doubt". If you tell me my employee>
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Replying to @cheomitII @naamamarom
No, it operates on rumour and no smoke without fire. We can try to do better tho.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @naamamarom
Often it does. But that's the price you pay for being able to function in a world where you need to act on imperfect information. And what, precisely, do you think needs to be done "better"? Are you suggesting we be more skeptical of people claiming they were robbed?
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Replying to @cheomitII @naamamarom
No but be sceptical of someone claiming a certain individual robbed them without evidence of this. Want a list of the things I've been accused of?
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You should assume that I am in the pay of the far-right, that I am a child-abuser, that I am a psychopath, that I lost someone their job through lies, that I practice mind-control and that I am cheating on my husband and am a violent alcoholic who sends hate mail urging suicide
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Replying to @HPluckrose @naamamarom
You'll note I made the same distinction - between how readily we might accept "I was raped" and "Bill raped me". Interestingly, though, false accusations of rape appear more likely to be vague ("some guy in the alley") than specific... http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1077801210387748 …pic.twitter.com/lycAnS5f8j
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Replying to @cheomitII @naamamarom
Interesting. Although the three friends I had who made false accusations were all specific tho only one of them was malicious. (She is not my friend any more)
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Replying to @HPluckrose @naamamarom
Wouldn't be mine, either! Nobody needs that sort of person in their life. But you are surely above the anecdotal fallacy...
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Replying to @cheomitII @naamamarom
I am. That's why I said it was interesting. I accept that it is probably true. The woman who had the police combing the streets here last year did not name anyone.
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But this is also why I am not committed to 'listen and believe.' I have seen men falsely accused, not even maliciously - one was developing schizophrenia and the other said what she had to to stop her father beating the shit out of her - and even a tiny number of cases is 2 many.
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None of them were charged with false accusations, btw, but one man's life was ruined and he moved to Italy to escape it. Badly beaten up too. It makes me inclined to uphold reasonable doubt rules in my own life.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @naamamarom
I hold "reasonable doubt" rules, too. And "reasonable" is variable. Tell me you have a dog; great, I believe you, whatever. It's likely, no harm done if you're lying... Tell me you were raped, roughly the same thing. Tell me Bill raped you, I'm going to need a bit more...
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