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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10

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    Can 'body positivity' never include supporting your friends who have changed their body to a way they like it and are feeling positive about it? I hate the pressure from fat activists to silence or shame those who want to lose weight, are losing weight & feel better for ithttps://twitter.com/rgay/status/980924295932071936 …

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    There are few people who are more insufferable than those who recently lost any given amount of weight and want to evangelize to you.
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      2. Ginn Pickles‏ @Woofaraw Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Certainly, but supporting a friend in their own endeavors is different from giving unsolicited advice to others.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
        Replying to @Woofaraw

        I just said that too!

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      4. Ginn Pickles‏ @Woofaraw Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sorry, maybe I missed it.

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      2. Liberal, Not Lefty‏ @liberalnotlefty Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        100% agree. I've lost over 100lbs in the last 2 years, and I've lost a friend over it (who was a member of the full out "obesity positivity" crowd, and thought my losing weight was "conforming to patriarchal norms"...)

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      3. Glinda Brewbaker‏ @annabeldickson Apr 11
        Replying to @liberalnotlefty @HPluckrose

        Omg yes. As someone who has had one plastic surgery and plans to have more, I say let people do what will make them feel more confident, healthier, beautiful, etc. I read some ridiculous radfem article saying that when we do these things we undermine other women LOL

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      1. Rukhsana Sukhan‏ @RukhsanaSukhan Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I find the attempts to silence presented as virtuous behaviours a bit of a gaslight. It is a pattern, this inability to receive honest criticism.

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      2. Jeremy‏ @jeremysleanings Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'm interpreting this differently. I have had friends who lost weight, and were supported by peers and family. Sometimes, their own personal successes morph into this weird brand of activism where they become obsessed with coaching others (mostly unsolicited) re. health/fitness.

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      3. Jeremy‏ @jeremysleanings Apr 10
        Replying to @jeremysleanings @HPluckrose

        You absolutely have a right to be proud and feel good about your weight loss. But If I click on your social media and EVERY week is a new before and after pic with quotes ripped from a zoloft calendar, I'm going to scrutinize whether your true aim is to inspire others or just to

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      4. Jeremy‏ @jeremysleanings Apr 10
        Replying to @jeremysleanings @HPluckrose

        bask in a sea of compliments. Right or wrong, I think alot of people feel there's a thin line between being proud and being preachy

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      1. James Gavin‏ @mad_gav Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If someone is so insecure about their own weight that they feel the need to silence others who have managed to get even a little more healthy but rather wants the entire world to collude in their pretense that obesity can be healthy...

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      1. Barry J M(Fox-Balls)‏ @BarryJM_Guitar Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You can't win, you get pressure to lose weight by various people, those who hate and those who like you, then when you reach your goal you're the worlds biggest arsehole cos you're apparently encouraging everyone else to lol

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      1. Jay & Violent Mob, Insert Tribal Identity Here‏ @JAndViolentMob Apr 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "Obesity positivist" leading to shaming folks for dieting because they want to be health is madness. That being said, people on diets can actually be insufferable. I think it must be neurological, but people on diets obsess, and talk/preach, about food and their diet. A lot!

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      1. Maura Rosner‏ @maura_rosner Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes, of course. You can do it!

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      1. Virgil Scott‏ @thevirg83 Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This was one comment. Honestly, taking what are clearly compliments in such a negative way isn’t going to help in the long run. She’ll go back to bad habits.pic.twitter.com/ATNIp0kraM

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      1. Adele‏ @MadriverMind Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They don't believe intentionally reducing one's body size is something necessarily worthy of support.

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      1. Pwease no steppy.‏ @thegreatSQLizer Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Intrasexual competition / crab bucket mentality.

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      1. Mike‏ @citation_needed Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        No, it can’t. Greta Christina found that out the hard way:http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2010/12/caught-between-fat-and-thin.html …

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      1. Chance Billingham‏ @ChanceBilling Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        So what are your thoughts on the discipline of fat studies? Harmful, valuable both or neither?

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      1. Finnel‏ @finnelcl Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Good God. So many problems would be solved if people would just mind their business!

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