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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 9

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Emily Vicendese

    Fair enough. This can happen. But there is great lashback from radfems for anyone who doesn't toe the party line - see their attacks on thirdwave libfems - and from Marxists - see attacks on neoliberal social democrats - and from intersectionals - see attacks on everyone else.https://twitter.com/EmilyVicendese/status/983332568761171968 …

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    Emily Vicendese @EmilyVicendese
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    I don't think that's quite fair. One can see the value in structural analysis and collective action while also remain committed to individual rights.
    6:27 AM - 9 Apr 2018
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      2. Emily Vicendese‏ @EmilyVicendese Apr 9
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What do you mean by “great lashback” and “attacks”?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 9
        Replying to @EmilyVicendese

        Goodness. If you haven't seen the radfem opposition to the third wave intersectional libfems, I'm not sure where to start.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Emily Vicendese‏ @EmilyVicendese Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I’ve seen arguments and discussion. Not sure what you mean by “attacks” and “lashback”. Certainly haven’t seen radfems denying libfems civil and human rights.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
        Replying to @EmilyVicendese

        Well, no. Neither is that suggested by "attacks" and "lashback." This is verbal. By "attacks" and "lashback", I mean highly aggressive, condemnatory attacks on the character of people who disagree with them. Not 'I disagree with you about trans identity because...'

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose @EmilyVicendese

        But "You are a handmaiden supporting the patriarchy in the form of "transwomen." You are a misogynist and MRA." Meanwhile, intersectionals, "You are a bigot denying trans people's rights to exist. You are a misogynist and TERF. Both said to me too. I've had to mute hundreds.

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      7. Emily Vicendese‏ @EmilyVicendese Apr 10
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You’re right that you do get a lot of inflamed rhetoric, especially in internet based “discussions”. I agree it’s generally unhelpful (unless of course your goal is merely to score points against the other side and virtue signal to your comrades as opposed to advance discussion).

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      2. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue Apr 9
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "lashback" Helen is the Shakespearean neologist of our time 😜

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 9
        Replying to @RayMcCue

        My daughter: Stop making up words, mother. Shakespeare, you are not.

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      1. thewizard613‏ @thewizard613 Apr 9
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "lashback" if that isn't a real word, it damn well should be.

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