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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Eric Hamell

      I might also have to write a thing distinguishing forms of leftism - radicals, libertarians, identitarians and liberals which also break down into smaller groups and where they overlap &where they conflict utterly. Might have to recruit someone skilled in the art of Venn Diagramshttps://twitter.com/EricHamell/status/981142017353842688 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Eric Hamell @EricHamell
      I hope you aren't equating SJWdom with the far left. Being for socialism doesn't mean I'm an SJW. @Hollymathnerd @HPluckrose
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3

      You can't criticise destructive forms of leftism & support productive ones if you are confusing your radfems with your intersectionals, your Marxists with your postmodernists, your identitarians with your liberals & your libertarians with your radfems or conservatives.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3

      I would actually need a very complicated diagram for this. Maybe not a Venn diagram. Maybe a flowchart. Accompanied by much explanation.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3

      Oh god, I''d also have to distinguish British divisions from American ones. Our Left Libertarians in particular confuse Americans. "What is this I behold before me Does. not. compute." And I know little about the nuances of the rest of the Anglosphere. I may have to rethink this

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3

      And I, as a British lefty, am completely bewildered about the ideological basis of Antifa. It seems completely incoherent and to blend the worst aspects of everything but there will be an internal consistency I am missing.

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    6. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Apr 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You're unfamiliar with British organisations such as Anti-Fascist Action and Red Action then? Origin is in countering the National Front's street-fighting strategy of the 1980s.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3
      Replying to @moh_kohn

      Do you see American Antifa as operating on the same premises but just applying them to different culture and history?

      5:52 AM - 3 Apr 2018
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        2. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Apr 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          As far as I can tell, American Antifa is an umbrella term covering people who physically oppose what they believe is fascism? No central org so probably not much consistency between actions beyond that.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3
          Replying to @moh_kohn

          And this is why they seem to espouse ideas which are directly antithetical ideologically and intellectually, blending anarchism & Marxism & identity politics?

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        4. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Apr 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Do they? Wasn't aware there was even an organisation to issue statements.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 3
          Replying to @moh_kohn

          No, I see no statements. I just see what they are saying during protests.

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        6. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Apr 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Ah yes, then the inconsistency is probably that it's different people at different times / students who haven't thought it all through yet

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        7. (((The Rambler)))‏ @NevTheRambler Apr 3
          Replying to @moh_kohn @HPluckrose

          I'm not sure about that. I've heard adult self-described US anarchists agree wholeheartedly with intersectionalism and identity politics. How they can combine the individualism and libertarianism of anarchism with the authoritarianism of identity politics I have no idea.

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