We already have it. Article 10. This is a stunt.
I have answered that there is a restriction. They are not allowed to make anyone else listen. Harassment laws remain.
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Having accepted that freedom of speech does not include the right to inflict your speech on unwilling listeners, yes, I really want people to be able to express any ideas without restriction.
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So the victims have to run away from the speaker, or avoid social media?
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Walk away, yes. Don't follow racists etc.
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Or do and argue with them. I want to be able to criticise religion. Many people find this appalling and are very hurt by it. It now counts as hate speech and can be prosecuted.
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You can criticise religion. You and I both do that.
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But it now counts as hate speech. I could be arrested if I said something offensive and a religious person reported me. I probably won't be but things are getting worse, not better. Someone was arrested for saying children shouldn't be transitioned.
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Really? Do you have a link? I can’t find one.
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Sure, but if a bully stands in a school playground and uses their right to loudly express their hatred for gays, knowing their classmate is gay, does the classmate have to avoid the playground?
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No. There are already separate rules in schools and workplaces. They do not have to uphold freedom of speech.
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Exactly. This law if enacted would overturn those rules. This is the point. They want an absolute right to freedom of expression. There is already a qualified right in Article 10. Qualifies because schools etc. can overrule it.
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No, they don't. They want governments not to punish people for speech. Schools can still punish bullies. Employers can still fire them.
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You’re not listening to me. Do you know what the ECHR is? They are effectively asking for Art. 10 to be made absolute. If that was the case, schools could not stop bullies from saying anything they wanted. By doing so it would be the same as killing them (Art. 2).
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Show me. The ECHR wants to stop schools tackling bullies?
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Not currently, that’s my point. This petition would cause it.
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Don't be so silly. Best case scenario, the government has to debate making a free speech act and getting rid of hate speech laws. They are very unlikely to say 'I know! Lets take control of schools away from teachers too!'
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