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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 2

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      Well, society, rightly, does not. Once same sex couples have been able to marry for a century or so, this will become traditional marriage too. Traditions change. Within marriage, it's been for the better. https://twitter.com/AndersEigen/status/980926280659972097 …

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 2

      There also seems to be a strange logic in opposition to same sex marriage that it undermines the heterosexual couple family. As though denying same sex couples the right to marry will encourage them to marry someone of the opposite sex? It doesn't work like that.

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        2. Edwin J. Pole II‏ @ejpoleii Apr 2
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          "Marriage" has been taken over by the state from the church and is treated like a contractual relationship. Accordingly, the state should acknowledge and enforce any consensual relationship between adults no matter the gender or number in the contract.

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        3. PragmaticLibertarian‏ @parallel235 Apr 2
          Replying to @ejpoleii @HPluckrose

          Actually, marriage was taken over by the church from an evolved social institution. This worked because the way the church treated marriage reinforced its social function. State marriage laws originally did the same thing, but now they undermine it.

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        4. Edwin J. Pole II‏ @ejpoleii Apr 2
          Replying to @parallel235 @HPluckrose

          Long history of "marriage." Initial licensing of marriage in US was based in racism (miscegenation.) State has no business making marriage laws, imho.

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        5. PragmaticLibertarian‏ @parallel235 Apr 2
          Replying to @ejpoleii @HPluckrose

          Marriage is very important to society. States make laws for the good of society. So there is an intersection which is unavoidable. The anti-miscegenation laws were based on a view of the good of society that we no longer believe in.

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        6. Edwin J. Pole II‏ @ejpoleii Apr 2
          Replying to @parallel235 @HPluckrose

          Unpragmatic enough of a libertarian to think that state should stay out of area of personal relationships. Only area state might get into is 3rd parties, ie children. Prolly best discussing details over a beer. 😃

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        2. FanofNUFC‏ @AustraliaToon1 Apr 2
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I don't think that is the reason. I think the reason cited is that by allowing single sex marriage, the state is diluting the meaning of marriage. I don't agree with this, before mytimeline blows up.

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        3. PragmaticLibertarian‏ @parallel235 Apr 2
          Replying to @AustraliaToon1 @HPluckrose

          Not ”diluting the meaning”. Rather, ”lowering the status” which is the way marriage functions. Married people get social status (and socially acceptable sex) in return for the effort put into having and raising children.

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