I absolutely know it's possible to see things like LGBT rights and reproductive freedom as society becoming less moral. I wouldn't bother arguing so much against that position if it wasn't.https://twitter.com/OldSaintRiot/status/980893110799499264 …
Well, that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if you live somewhere which already has them, obviously.
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I live in Canada. Are there parts of the Western world that abrogate gay people's rights? I exclude Africa and the Middle-East from this question. In those cases, the right to struggle are not LGBT rights, even if it directly affects gay folks, but human rights.
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Well, that is what is meant by LGBT rights - making the rights of LGBT people the same as the rights of others. We have full equality here now. Before we had same sex marriage, that was a right that was lacking. Now it isn't.
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1. I don't believe that marriage, per say, is a right that is/should be afforded to two people of the same sex. A right serves the purpose of permitting one to perform a duty, and in the case of marriage, the duty is to the well-being of offspring produced by the couple.
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You don't have to believe that same sex couples should have the right to get married but this a right people who fight for LGBT rights do fight for. I don't define rights as serving the purpose of permitting one to perform a duty and offspring is not a duty of marriage.
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Then you do not use the word "right," a legal term, the way that those who legislate, adjudicate and enforce the laws do. Offspring is not a duty of marriage, but duty to offspring is the purpose of marriage.
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That should be changed then. Duty to offspring should be independent of whether their parents are married and whether they are the same sex or the opposite sex.
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Why? Just a reminder that offspring means the product of sexual reproduction, not merely any child in the vicinity. I agree that offspring, and children in general should be cared for. But none of this addresses assigning traditional purpose-created legal rights to non-parents.
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I don't care much about traditional purposes of marriage. That has changed a lot over time and space. Now it mostly signals a loving commitment which is why same sex couples want the same right to do it. And I think people have a duty to care for their adopted children too.
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