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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 2

    I don't understand people who are sceptical that we've made huge moral progress in the last few hundred years. Unless they are religious theocrats who think homosexuals & atheists should be killed. They're usually not, tho.

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      1. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        "I don't understand people who are sceptical that we've made huge moral progress" You get more of what you reward. People are constantly rewarded (academically, professionally, socially) for pointing fingers and declaring something a moral outrage.

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      1. Wonderbeard‏ @WonderbeardShow Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        They should consider how much this weakens their message, too. I can't trust people who can't acknowledge how far we've come to tell us where we should be heading.

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      2. Quantum Potato  🐻‏ @OrumusST Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree with you but I think we are on the brink of destroying much of that progress. From people not tolerating opinions that differ from theirs to demanding and even enacting laws to restrict and even compel speech.. We live in a dangerous time.

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      3. Quantum Potato  🐻‏ @OrumusST Apr 2
        Replying to @OrumusST @HPluckrose

        We can either choose to march forward with a form of social progress that encourages all people to be better to hope and dream or we can fall back into a new Dark Age of intellectual stagnation and repression.

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      2. Dan Knapp‏ @sirknapp Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I couldn’t agree more. Society is in so many ways kinder and gentler, all the whole religious attendance falls. I’m not saying that religion made things worse, but it is interesting that we seem not to need an overarching rule book to achieve it.

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      3. Jeff Alberda‏ @JeffAlberda Apr 2
        Replying to @sirknapp @HPluckrose

        Not sure I'd agree. Maybe Western society has so ingrained the rules behind the christian ethic that its decided (properly or improperly) that the book is no longer required. I'd bet those rules will be just as misapplied on occasion as they are under the religious pretense.

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      4. Dan Knapp‏ @sirknapp Apr 2
        Replying to @JeffAlberda @HPluckrose

        But there isn’t one set of rules in the Christian faith. There are many competing sets of rules which place emphasis on community, individual love, family ties, etc. Christianity is special because it charts 2,000 years of human thought but it isn’t unique.

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      1. Phil McCutchen‏ @PastorPhilBCC Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        We've never had more freedom in Western Civilization to be whatever one wants to be. I am mystified by those who still want to destroy it. The best way of life ever imagined is Western Civilization.

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      1. TSpooooky  👻 🎃‏ @TCoop6231 Apr 3
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think the explanation is quite simple. They compare the *best* people from 1900 to the worst people today.

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      2. Andrew Lockley‏ @andrewjlockley Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Factory farming? Climate change? Extinction?

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      3. TSpooooky  👻 🎃‏ @TCoop6231 Apr 3
        Replying to @andrewjlockley @HPluckrose

        Slavery? Human sacrifice? Child labor? Women’s liberation? Religious freedom?

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      1. VictoryRed‏ @FreddyMagnus Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It be fair to say that humanism has made significant progress. The question is why non-humanists would accept that definition of “moral progress.”

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      1. Matt Guttman‏ @mattguttmanorg Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        M O T I V A T E D R E A S O N I N G

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      1. Alex Cheung‏ @greatsave7 Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        There are also religious people who don't condemn homosexuals to death but believe homosexuality is immoral and thus the mainstream acceptance of it indicates moral decline.

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      1. Darth Cuttles‏ @DarthCuttles Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Because that's what happens when you live an incredibly privledged life with little or no exposure to the outside world. You turn into a neo Marxist.

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      1. Chris‏ @ChrisExpTheNews Apr 2
        Replying to @sarangmumen @HPluckrose

        We can argue progress from a subjective standpoint too...

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      2. hanco_‏ @natehanco Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think things are much better but I am skeptical that progress is inevitable or that we as individual human creatures are more moral today than in the past.

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      3. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Apr 2
        Replying to @natehanco @HPluckrose

        " I am skeptical that progress is inevitable" I don't think anyone claimed that.

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      4. hanco_‏ @natehanco Apr 2
        Replying to @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose

        I am not saying she or anyone else in particular did but it is a popular belief in many circles.

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      5. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Apr 2
        Replying to @natehanco @HPluckrose

        It is also a popular (arguably, mendacious) rhetorical technique to respond to statements people make as though they said something entirely different.

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      6. hanco_‏ @natehanco Apr 2
        Replying to @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose

        Why assume I said something argumentative instead of complementary?

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      7. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Apr 2
        Replying to @natehanco @HPluckrose

        It was probably the "but"

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