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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 2

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Indiegirl

    No. The options are not 'postmodern, identitarian lefty' or 'conservative.' Rational, liberal lefties still exist and need to make themselves known and get their house in order.https://twitter.com/indiegirl610/status/980716235250917376 …

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    Indiegirl @indiegirl610
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    Liberal but not "unenlightened." Feminist but not the "silly, nasty" kind. You may not have intended it, but this feels like buying into the right's narrative. Like me saying "I'm a minority but not the bad kind." As if I'm seeking their approval & validation that I'm acceptable.
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      2. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        @citation_needed reminds me of this any time I say "the Left" without remembering to qualify what subsetpic.twitter.com/BwOrz2fys7

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Apr 2
        Replying to @RayMcCue @citation_needed

        He scolds a lot. (But he's right in this case)

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      4. Mike‏ @citation_needed Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose @RayMcCue

        You can lump the whole left in with its lunatic fringe (committing the same sin they do), or you can be correct. Plus the lunatic left hates moderate lefties waaaaaay more than it hates anyone on the right; a heretic is more dangerous than an infidel.

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      5. Raymond McCue  💗⚤ 💜⚣ 💙,  🏳️‍🌈‏ @RayMcCue Apr 2
        Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

        Well I don't lump. Sometimes other cognitive demands just preclude the use of "a subset of", "some", etc. I *tend to* use them 😜 I could go for the "regressive Left", but avoid the phrase as its members close off their ears/minds on hearing it. Im pretty liberal with SJW tho 😅

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      2. Jay & Violent Mob, Insert Tribal Identity Here‏ @JAndViolentMob Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        We differ on this one, Helen. I've abandoned the identity label "left" as my own. Like the way I dropped the identity feminist. If someone forces my hand, I call myself a centrist or a humanist now. I do not wish to be associated with this movements, not unless they reform.

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      4. Jay & Violent Mob, Insert Tribal Identity Here‏ @JAndViolentMob Apr 2
        Replying to @Oirish_M @HPluckrose

        I don't know. I think movements, and their titles, often have their day, and a life-span, before they degrade. There's no harm in new movements, and new names for these new movements, to emerge, though it's hard to abandon left/right political speak altogether. Hence me=centrist.

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      6. Jay & Violent Mob, Insert Tribal Identity Here‏ @JAndViolentMob Apr 2
        Replying to @Oirish_M @HPluckrose

        In terms of language being a social construct (😉) I am certainly more right now than I used to be, both in terms of how I identify myself as centre, not left, now, and how some libs identify me as "literally Hitler".

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      8. Jay & Violent Mob, Insert Tribal Identity Here‏ @JAndViolentMob Apr 2
        Replying to @Oirish_M @HPluckrose

        Sure it's all gotten a little out of hand, hey? A pox on all their houses!

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      1. Paul Maloney‏ @maloneype Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Hear hear! I’ve struggled to find my tribe since the Democratic Party abandoned the working class and embraced identity politics. The belief system that Quillette argues for here is a great start:http://quillette.com/2017/08/29/centrism-moderate-manifesto/ …

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      1. Indiegirl‏ @indiegirl610 Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not my point. You said you wanted your position clear, but you said "leftie" and then listed what you're NOT as opposed to what you are. And your list had the usual conservative knocks and narrative without clarity on why then you identify as Left. It wasn't clear so I chimed in.

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      1. Richard Jackson‏ @GerretJax Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Are you advising to "Clean Your Room"? 😜

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      1. Biosock‏ @No_Appli Apr 2
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        God knows I've been trying. It's disheartening, though, when you're constantly met with defensive knee-jerk reactions and (conversational) doors slammed in your face.

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