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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      This also means the political viewpoint would change on it if we wanted to talk about it as a "far-right" view. - I think the label of far-right is applied much too wide. Far-right & far-left (both in extremes) want the same things, just with different justifications... (imo)

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      I don't think it counts as a far-right view.

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    3. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      And that depends on the definition of "far-right" (to go full circle here) - Just saw today a flyer that was in a school, that argues the GOP is essentially the same as Nazis in Germany in 1939. With a comparison of (Strawmen-) viewpoints...

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Yes, we all know that 'far-right' can be used wrongly - not to describe extremist fringes. I'd still like to talk about the most extreme rightwing views tho & am currently saying that they are giving me less to get my teeth into than extreme leftwing views.

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    5. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Really? - Can you give me one or two examples? I find both extremes very easy to dismantle with science... - both try to ignore science. I do admit that right wing just dismisses science and left wing try to circumvent it with word games, but in the end, denial is denial...

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Huh? We seem to be at cross-purposes here. Yes, they both deny science. My examples will be of theories which do that which I can get my teeth into. I think you think I am arguing something I am not.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

      I am currently studying a great body of scholarship around feminist epistemology which includes distinct concepts of epistemic injustice, epistemic oppression, epistemic exploitation, epistemic violence, privilege-preserving epistemic pushback, reason/emotion divide, situatedness

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

      It's all a big fascinating complicated mess all building on itself which I can dig right into and take apart and uncover the sources of and refine down the core assumptions and show why they don't work. And I can show how this manifests in society and ideas of 'stay in your lane'

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

      I am not getting any of this from the far-right. There's no scholarship being produced now that I can find and in conversation, I usually just hear assertions about racial superiority and conspiracy theories and the death of western civilisation which I can't probe too far into.

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    10. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      That's true, but that's because the academic sector is run by the far-left currently. but even there, stuff like critical race theory is actually a lot of times more right extreme then you would believe. As for feminist epistemology, I find it so weak that common sense is enough.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Yes. It doesn't matter why there is more of it. And I;m certainly not claiming it;s less extreme or that it has worth! I am saying that it is why I am more interested in studying it in depth than anything happening on the right. I have been asked to justify this.

      11:47 AM - 30 Mar 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

          I still feel we are at cross-purposes. Do you get that my point is the reason I criticise left-wing ideology much more than right-wing ideology is because there is a load of scholarship and complicated and ever-evolving ideology on the left to hold my interest?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

          I feel like you think I am saying more than this very simple point that 'interest' is what motivates me to look at one side of the political spectrum more than the other, not tribalism (ie a secret bias to the right)

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        2. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

          I don't think you should even comment on that, to be honest. If you want to question yourself that is ofc fine but you don't need to justify why you go after one or the other. If I get asked I always say because it is against enlightenment to speak lies. And that works for me.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
          Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

          I think I need to because people I respect are asking me why I focus so exclusively on the left when awful things are happening on the right too and worrying that I will strengthen the worst of the right in this way and that I have a secret rightwing bias.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @realMisterQ and

          I felt the need for a thread explaining the intellectual interest and why it is there for the left in a way that it isn't for the right. I would be bored if I spent much time arguing against rightwing views. I'd rather identify problems on the left and try to make it stronger.

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        5. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

          You will always have people who criticise you for not doing enough or doing what they wanted you to do. If they are so keen on getting something done they should spare the time themselves and just do it! They don't! And most will never do it. So be yourself and do what is fun ;)

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        1. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

          That said I also have a totally different approach if it's about feminism for instance because as a "male" you need to argue differently to not be dismissed on the spot ;)

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