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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Anna Ellis‏ @annaellis_net Mar 30

      Anna Ellis Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      I'm finding this conversation interesting, on a number of levels. I'd need a detailed definition of "far-right views" before I could join in a dialogue of whether it's "blindingly obvious" that they are wrong/don't have any substance.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/979764760009994241 …

      Anna Ellis added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      It's not hard at all. It just doesn't take very long, especially when talking to fellow lefties. It's blindingly obvious why far-right views are wrong. If you think it's harmful to say far-right views don't have any substance, can you say what the substance is? https://twitter.com/Daniel_Rivieria/status/979762815681445888 …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @annaellis_net

      Could you suggest a far-right view which does have theoretical, ideological depth and complexity?

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    3. Non-Toxic Avenger 🗽 🍕‏ @Bugs_Meany Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net

      Do things like "support for 2nd amendment" or "opposition to (unregulated) abortion" qualify as "Far Right"? They don't in the US (at least i don't think so), but i suspect they might be seen that way in UK.pic.twitter.com/Krz1MzYFhA

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    4. Anna Ellis‏ @annaellis_net Mar 30
      Replying to @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose

      This is *exactly* why I'm not prepared to debate this topic until we have an agreed definition of the term. Social conservatism is not, to my mind, "far-right" per se. Neither is fiscal conservatism.

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    5. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose

      It also depends on the merit of the case itself - as, for example, gun control in the USA is something totally different than gun control for instance in Germany. There is a reality behind the debate that has totally different starting points in different countries.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Yes, this is a huge issue. If I could snap my fingers and make all America's guns disappear and then it would have same norms and presence of guns as UK, I would. That can't happen coz of the guns already there and the long history of them being a right and much tied into this.

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    7. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Removing guns from the American people, even if over 80% of the people would support it, would end in bloodshed that would be a lot higher then 100 years of gun deaths. - that is a reality we have to put into context in the debate. I would be pro-gun in the USA and I'm anti in DE

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      It would also feed into all sorts of cultural narratives. A gun is not just a weapon. It has associations of freedom & resistance to tyranny, right and left, north and south. The political ramifications would be huge and go on for a long time.

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    9. Mister Q  🌀‏ @realMisterQ Mar 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Exactly - sadly I never see somebody even thinking that out loud or just acknowledging that - neither on the right or the left. The point of both sides can't be to go to civil war! So any energy people invest in "repealing the 2nd amendment" is in my opinion totally wasted...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30
      Replying to @realMisterQ @annaellis_net @Bugs_Meany

      Improvement on this will have to be incremental.

      11:17 AM - 30 Mar 2018
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