I'm finding this conversation interesting, on a number of levels. I'd need a detailed definition of "far-right views" before I could join in a dialogue of whether it's "blindingly obvious" that they are wrong/don't have any substance.https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/979764760009994241 …
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Replying to @annaellis_net
Could you suggest a far-right view which does have theoretical, ideological depth and complexity?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @annaellis_net
Do things like "support for 2nd amendment" or "opposition to (unregulated) abortion" qualify as "Far Right"? They don't in the US (at least i don't think so), but i suspect they might be seen that way in UK.pic.twitter.com/Krz1MzYFhA
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Replying to @Bugs_Meany @HPluckrose
This is *exactly* why I'm not prepared to debate this topic until we have an agreed definition of the term. Social conservatism is not, to my mind, "far-right" per se. Neither is fiscal conservatism.
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It also depends on the merit of the case itself - as, for example, gun control in the USA is something totally different than gun control for instance in Germany. There is a reality behind the debate that has totally different starting points in different countries.
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Yes, this is a huge issue. If I could snap my fingers and make all America's guns disappear and then it would have same norms and presence of guns as UK, I would. That can't happen coz of the guns already there and the long history of them being a right and much tied into this.
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Removing guns from the American people, even if over 80% of the people would support it, would end in bloodshed that would be a lot higher then 100 years of gun deaths. - that is a reality we have to put into context in the debate. I would be pro-gun in the USA and I'm anti in DE
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It would also feed into all sorts of cultural narratives. A gun is not just a weapon. It has associations of freedom & resistance to tyranny, right and left, north and south. The political ramifications would be huge and go on for a long time.
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Exactly - sadly I never see somebody even thinking that out loud or just acknowledging that - neither on the right or the left. The point of both sides can't be to go to civil war! So any energy people invest in "repealing the 2nd amendment" is in my opinion totally wasted...
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Improvement on this will have to be incremental.
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