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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Colm O'Gorman

      Several significant things going on here & much misfocused attention. Whether or not it is 'macabre' to use a dead woman's body to incubate her foetus is possibly the least significant thing. Medical science is frequently macabre. Things being icky matter less than the ethics.https://twitter.com/Colmogorman/status/979629433798750208 …

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      Colm O'GormanVerified account @Colmogorman
      As much as this is upsetting, it’s also very revealing. Anti-abortion campaign believes the macabre use of a dead woman’s body, against the wishes of their family was “noble”. This is what they think of women. #ItsTime #Repealthe8th #Together4Yes #8thRef https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/doctor-using-braindead-woman-as-incubator-was-noble-36758629.html …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      We see a lot about people's experiences and feelings but very ethical analysis and very little information by which to make an ethical analysis. We are not given any information which could indicate what the woman would have wanted or the foetus' chance of survival/suffering.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      Maybe other publications have done this better but I don't know. It is unlikely the woman ever left specific instructions about what she would want to happen in the event that she died before her foetus was viable but was able to act as an incubator. Educated guesses can be made

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      By people who know her values & feelings on the matter. In my case, people who knew me would know I would want my body used in this way no matter how icky it was if it could make my baby survive & flourish and not if there was an overwhelming likelihood of it suffering & dying.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      The chances of the foetus living vs it suffering & dying should be the overwhelming focus right now, not whether the process is macabre, not political views on the Eighth, not anyone else's positive or negative experiences of pregnancy. One organism can thrive or suffer here

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      Obstetrician said this was an example of why the Eighth should be repealed? No, it isn't. The Eighth should definitely be repealed but the examples of why involve living women who have the right to choose whether to be pregnant, not women who are, to all extents & purposes, dead

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      What is macabre about this piece is people on either side asserting their experiences of pregnancy as relevant when this woman can no longer experience anything and the pressing subject of whether the foetus will experience anything & what that is likely to be is not addressed.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      'As a mother of four children I have more experience with pregnancy...' So what? As the mother of dozens of children, the average female mouse has more experience than you. We don't care about her opinion because she doesn't have knowledge & an ethical argument. Do you? Show it.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      Ten young women spoke of their personal experiences with pregnancy. Again, so what? THIS WOMAN CAN'T EXPERIENCE ANYTHING. This is, yet again, the belief knowledge is situated within experience & emotion of a particular group, at the expense of information & ethical argument.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 30

      The wellbeing of this foetus & of the woman's surviving family matter here. Repealing the Eighth also matters hugely for the rights and freedom of Irish women. They both need addressing better than to mash them together & spew contradictory lived experiences & feelings over them.

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        1. ୧(╬ಠ益ಠ)૭ Bear-Ass‏ @LegendaryAsshol Mar 30
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          Was she an organ donor?

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