I have another person who feels entitled to pester me for days and days because they really, really disagree with something I said even tho I have asked her to go away. James and I wrote a thing about this - the Fallacy of Demanding to be Heard - which we'll publish shortly.
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"Helen Pluckrose: if you would not like to be dragged into conversations that annoy you - perhaps you should be more careful in what you recommend, suggest or advise at the expense of trivialising real issues. May I suggest sticking to your area of expertise then?"
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Do we all see the problem with this? Essentially: You don't want me to tag you into constant rants about how stupid and immoral you are after you've asked me to stop? You should have thought about that before you criticised feminism.
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I'm sure she'd see the problem with: You don't want me to tag you into constant rants about how immoral and stupid you are after you've asked me to stop? You should have thought about that before you advocated feminism.
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I'm alarmed by the number of times I have seen 'I'm justified in trying to force someone to hear me berate them because of how wrong they are. What else could I do? Look at what they said!' No, you are not & you'd see it as the abusive and harassing behaviour it is if done to you
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If you don't want me to do this, stop saying that. Jesus. I actually saw someone justify making multiple accounts to stalk someone by saying 'I tried to leave him alone but I couldn't help it when he says things like that Gender Studies aren't producing useful knowledge!'
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It's the same mentality, but much less severe consequences as people who say if ex-Muslims don't want to be persecuted, they shouldn't criticise Islam. It comes from a place of zealotry. 'I am so sure my position is morally righteous that it's justifiable to harass dissidents.'
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I can deal with this but the mentality is alarming. It doesn't do to underestimate it.
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They’d easily recognise the harassing behaviour & speech policing behaviour as bad if it was done to them, but since the ‘other side’ is guilty of ‘wrong think’ it’s not only morally justified but socially imperative.
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