There is a kind of conservative who imagines that feminism is essentially 1970s lesbian separatism despite the fact that this essentially ended decades ago and the radical feminists, lesbian or not, are primary targets of the current dominant feminism - intersectionality.
Then you know she's not a lesbian. Please do find it. I'd be very interested to see figures. I think I know who most of the leading feminist scholars are.
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She is an open misandrist and she is supported by the most prominent liberals in America for her misandry. She absolutely hated men for most of her life and still does. A single essay does not prove anything. No true lesbian. Sure she is a spectrum. We all are.
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I don't know if she's a misandrist. I looked for evidence of her being a lesbian. The political lesbianism of the 2nd wave is very different to the queer identity of today.
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Her pinned tweet for years was "you call me a misandrist like it's a bad thing" I called her on it. Guess who joined in the male bashing. https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/664179225243557888 …
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OK, but I'm not arguing that misandry is not a major thing. I am saying, for the last time, that political lesbian separatism has moved on to critical race theory, queer theory and intersectionality now and the old radfems, lesbian or not, are being no-platformed and vilified.
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Ah. Yeah that gets complicated and quantifying it would require agreeing on metrics of speech and influence. I'll agree with you that intersectionality is running its course and displacing many radfems online. LGBTQ alliances have always been forced and fractious though.
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They are not interested in the G, contemptuous of the B, usually declare the T to be a patriarchal conspiracy to steal women's identity and are ambiguous on the Q.
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It’s almost as if Lesbians are only interested in other women who are also only interested in other women. Fancy that.
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I wasn't talking about sexually. I was talking about the politics of the political lesbian separatists.
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2 white male lovers does not a "straight" woman make. Neural imaging studies most women are aroused by non-preferred sex (most bisexual) so most of these groupings are basic sexual ID pol. Her preferred sexual partners have been MOSTLY women and she admits to being a misandrist.
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No, it makes a bisexual. I'm certainly not denying that leading feminist academics are misandrist. I'm saying that political lesbianism is dead.
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It does not make here a bisexual unless she identifies as a bisexual. Depending again on how you measure these things. Either way if you admit leading academic feminists are misandrist that is more damning than a conservative narrative that they are merely lesbian separatists.
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No, I'm not going on self-identification here. A bisexual is someone who attracted to both sexes. Also, she does identify as bisexual. Well, yes. I have spent considerable time arguing about the misandry problem. It doesn't help to conflate this with lesbianism.
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It confuses the issue and makes it easier to dismiss if feminists are being 'accused' of being lesbians which is morally neutral when what they are is misandrists which is a form of bigotry. It just looks homophobic and bigoted rather than addressing bigotry which actually exists
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Pew polls show most conservatives accept gays. At this point I’d say LGBTQ are on the offensive in USA and homophobia isn’t a huge issue. whether Academics are lesbian separatist Redfems or not the underlying misandry has always been the larger threat.
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You know who controls feminist conferences in USA and Latin America?
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Is it not the leading feminist scholars?
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What is your metric for influence? Citations? The number of hits? I refer you to
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I doubt they're saying its the radfem lesbian separatists. They know it's the intersectionals.
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But, if I am wrong, and radfem political lesbians are still acceptable at feminist conferences in a way they are not in academia, I will be glad to be corrected on this.
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Parsing the definitions may be impossible as few like to be completely boxed in. Lesbianic itself is subjective. Anyone can identify as LG and the neural imaging studies show they are bisexual, which have always been the most marginalized group of the LGBTQ "alliance".
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