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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 24

    I'm not buying into the 'Male feminists are sexual predators' narrative. "Everyone I disagree with is a rapist' is as bad as 'Everyone I disagree with is a Nazi'. All groups have bad actors. Most people are well-motivated. Some groups have bad ideas. Focus on that.

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      2. Lucas Lynch‏ @lucasjlynch Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not to prioritize "muh experience" of course, but I definitely know women who encountered the breed described. "Woke ally turned creepy harasser" is the "Right wing Christian politician that was visiting gay prostitutes" for millennials.

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      2. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree with you there, but I have noticed that there are an awful lot of male video game journalists who have made a big deal about being feminists in the past being arrested for sex offences (such as possession of kiddy porn) now. That is a small subset though.

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      3. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 24
        Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

        It would be incredibly, hideously, inappropriate and incorrect to generalise the whole from that subset of a subset.

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      1. elizabeth‏ @elizpingree Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I agree

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      1. Gil Reich‏ @GilR Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And to take that one step further, all ideas have both positive and negative consequences. We can't let ourselves be manipulated by those that cherry pick consequences of the ideas they like or hate.

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      1. Tomas De Torquemada‏ @TomasDeTorque Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Is this a serious view, that men who claim to be feminists are just sexual predators? This sounds like really crazy/paranoid feminist stuff.

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      1. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In the realm of politics, there is a disproportionate number of male allies were predatory for decades and given passes. Bob Filner is one of many examples. Sacramento is currently rocked by sex scandals. Though they statistically qualify as outliers ignoring them is unwise.

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      1. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        In @sapinker book "the better angels of our nature" chapter 3 one of many decivilizing forces documented was the support of Black Panthers raping white women as an act of political defiance. This was celebrated in NYT and other elite magazines.

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      1. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The @BrookingsInst poll shows that 30% of males on campus are willing to use violence to shut down free speech. Females disproportionately oppose free speech. It stands to reason a fair % of men are trying to prove themselves to feminists with violence. Rape ? whatever.

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      1. Owen Edwards‏ @OwenEdwards Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think it's inevitable that predators will find ally-feminism good cover, just as being a religious, scientific, or political activist can be.

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      1. 02BITS PODCAST  🐻 🇨🇦 🇺🇦‏ @02BITSPODCAST Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The "not all" defensce has been subverted to mean "not when I say it doesn't" heavy empathise on the I.

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      2. Mike D‏ @mikedennymike Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That's certainly an extreme hot-take. I subscribe to the assumption that many male feminists are employing a strategy to get laid. And often become frusterated and manifest a resentment towards women when it doesn't work that results in them becoming what they set out to oppose.

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      3. Mike D‏ @mikedennymike Mar 24
        Replying to @mikedennymike @HPluckrose

        I'd guess we've all seen the seething frustration of the male-fem when the object of his desire jumps on the back of her boyfriend's harley after the meeting. The boyfriend's indifference to the agenda causes the aggrieved male-fem to feel like she's betrayed him in some sense.

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      1. Grievxnce Scholxr‏ @Kvos77 Mar 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It seems heavily skewed towards a mating ploy IMO.

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