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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 20

      Please never again tell me I focus too much on freedom of speech. A man just got convicted of making a tasteless joke.

      56 replies 614 retweets 2,344 likes
    2. Robin  🇪🇺‏ @ARudeMechanical Mar 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      He was convicted of publishing a YouTube video of a dog making a Nazi salute in response to the command “gas the Jews”. I think that’s rather more than a tasteless joke. It’s incitement to race hate and no better than encouraging incest, rape or pedophilia. Free speech has limits

      6 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 20
      Replying to @ARudeMechanical

      I don't agree that it was. You can hate the joke and still defend his right to say it. Also, it was an attempt to annoy his girlfriend by making her pug do the least cute thing possible.

      1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
    4. Robin  🇪🇺‏ @ARudeMechanical Mar 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      The court did no accept that excuse. His girlfriend would have been no less annoyed (if that was his aim) without YouTube publication. If I made a video promoting child rape, would you support my right to disseminate it?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 20
      Replying to @ARudeMechanical

      You don't an excuse for filming yourself pranking your girlfriend, no matter how distastefully. He could perhaps lose friends but not be prosecuted. Same for jokes about paedophilia, yes, tho I wouldn't want to hear them.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    6. Robin  🇪🇺‏ @ARudeMechanical Mar 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Not just a joke though, is it? It’s incitement. And it’s not in private. It’s taking advantage of a public platform. What did he expect to gain other than self-publicity and stirring up hatred?

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    7. Owl, but exceptionally Spooky‏ @Luscus_Noctua Mar 20
      Replying to @ARudeMechanical @HPluckrose

      You're being deliberately obtuse in order to make this man into a boogeyman. Be a bit less of a snake and have some more respect for fellow human beings.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 20
      Replying to @Luscus_Noctua

      No need for that. We're having a civil disagreement.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Owl, but exceptionally Spooky‏ @Luscus_Noctua Mar 20
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I honestly don't care. It's not intellectually honest.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 20
      Replying to @Luscus_Noctua

      Yes, it is. He really believes that. Tell him why he shouldn't.

      12:32 PM - 20 Mar 2018
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        2. Owl, but exceptionally Spooky‏ @Luscus_Noctua Mar 20
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Similarly to why I won't argue with a Tankie why Stalin was actually a really bad guy, I won't argue with someone who asserts that something like this is actual incitement. I'd rather just laugh at them, because they're a lost case anyway.

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