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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      We have plenty of those tho. That's simple enough. That one was a bit special tho.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

      The Economist regularly has to explain comparative advantage (much harder conceptually) to the ‘educated general reader’. The ideas here are not particularly complex and the job could be done in clear, comprehensible prose.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      Yes, of course it could. There's nothing easier than clear, comprehensible prose.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

      To read, not to write. Writing clearly is hard. That is why people who can do it have a special skill. Relatedly, if an idea seems to require obscure expression, the idea itself may be at fault.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      OK, good writers can right straightforwardly. We can't all write in that mixture of postmodernism and poetic style which so perfectly suits the content. I've never seen anyone do that but I'm going to keep reading it aloud because it is beautiful.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      This is what I love about postmodernism - the allusive meandering language which captures the feel of a thing. I have often said it should exist as an art form. The problem is it talks complete bollocks. That didn't. That used it for precision & sharp analysis.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      I get why people are saying it could have been written more simply & briefly & got its point across clearly but that, I think, is to completely miss the point. It would then just be like a hundred other straightforward, clear arguments.

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    8. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

      It’s dreadful writing. I understand what he’s on about having been force-fed this tosh, and I didn’t finish it. Pity the poor person who, on a sudden, is forced to take a mental midget like Liz Grosz seriously.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      Well, now you've informed me of this, I no longer absolutely love it. I'll let the other people who did know they shouldn't either. I really think you just have to accept that people can find different things beautiful & meaningful even if you don't see why they do.

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    10. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

      ‘Quality’ in the arts isn’t purely subjective. Some things are better than others. There is, of course, room for disagreement, but an Aristotelean aristocracy of excellence is possible.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

      OK, then. Still, it really doesn't hurt you at all if I love something you don't and telling me I shouldn't really isn't going to achieve anything.

      2:04 PM - 16 Mar 2018
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        2. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

          On one level that’s true, but if you want the magazine you edit to reach a large audience, then you need clarity of expression. Areo is very good, but its current audience depends to a large degree on your special skill as a communicator of complex ideas in limpid prose.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

          Yes, that's a valid argument and the one I accept. I just hope on a personal level that this doesn't stop him doing his literary thing with postmodernism and that we can have two versions.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @HenstockStephen

          The second version will require him learning how to write. Unfortunately, that may involve you teaching him. You may be there for a while.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @_HelenDale @HenstockStephen

          We've already published two of his in clear, comprehensible prose. I'm going to leave it here because this is such a silly thing to try to argue about.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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