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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Pan Opticon

      So often 'overstating the problem' means 'focusing on a problem I don't find the most important.' That's fine but I don't think we all need to focus on the same problems. Specialisation is good. Speak to what you know. I know pomo thinking in academia.https://twitter.com/opticon_pan/status/974579333795753984 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Pan Opticon @opticon_pan
      Replying to @McwilliamBuck @HPluckrose
      Yeah I read it, I understand how people can take issue with some elements. I think Pluckrose is overstating the problem but, she's just pushing the tedious "campus craziness" narrative that I find so boring.
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Most students are not crazed far-left loons but an ideological bias manifesting in authoritarianism and censorship in universities does exist & does need addressing. In same way, far-right ethnonationalism is an extreme fringe but there still needs to be people looking at it.

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    3. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I agree, I think you and I would just quibble over whether the authoritarian left or the ethnonationalist right are more of a threat to human flourishing.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @opticon_pan

      Not unless you think the authoritarian left is. I think it's clear the right is much more scary right now. In our manifesto, we said we had our own very strong views on which fringe loons were the bigger threat. That will be the right.

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    5. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ok, then we broadly agree I think.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @opticon_pan

      I thought we might. I don't think postmodernism & its offshoots are the biggest problem in the world. I do think a huge epistemological shift has taken place which is undermining the credibility of the left, feeding into right wing identity politics & post-truth society.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

      Referring to this as 'postmodernism' causes confusion & it is more accurate to think of it as a postmodern epistemological & ideological shift & its evolution & normalisation within mainstream social conscience but this needs much unpacking. I am trying to do this.

      3:43 AM - 16 Mar 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          @Thesadredearth recently described it as 'logocentrism.' I think this encapsulates the problem much more neatly & gets at the reversals which have taken place in our understanding of the role of language and of subjective experience & objective reality.https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/10/the-world-made-flat-the-logocentric-left-and-the-politics-of-provocation/ …

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan @thesadredearth

          People have found this difficult to read as it deals with the ideas in their own economy, using their own language. But whereas postmodern approaches seek to complicate, confuse & find aporia, this piece seeks to dig into & define the underlying mechanisms of the symptoms we see

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        2. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Ok interesting, I'm following you now so I'll see what comes of your current efforts.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @opticon_pan

          Great. We have a defence of the university coming out in a few days which you might appreciate.

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        2.  ☀️ Astaregia  ☀️‏ @asta_regia_ Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          The label postmodern isn't helpful because few lay people know (or care) what it means. The label more likely to take hold is 'neo-marxist', which though very debateable requires less explanation to get public traction.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @asta_regia_ @opticon_pan

          And that is a problem. You can't understand or oppose the epistemological problem underlying all this if you conflate it with Marxism. I will soon be publishing a piece called 'Why postmodernism is not cultural Marxism.'

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        4.  ☀️ Astaregia  ☀️‏ @asta_regia_ Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          I'm sure it will be interesting, but you'll never get the average voter interested in the the difference between postmodernism and marxism. We'll be hearing the terms neo-marxist and cultural marxism non-stop for quite some time to come, and logically so. It's an easy sell.

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