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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Pan Opticon

      So often 'overstating the problem' means 'focusing on a problem I don't find the most important.' That's fine but I don't think we all need to focus on the same problems. Specialisation is good. Speak to what you know. I know pomo thinking in academia.https://twitter.com/opticon_pan/status/974579333795753984 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Pan Opticon @opticon_pan
      Replying to @McwilliamBuck @HPluckrose
      Yeah I read it, I understand how people can take issue with some elements. I think Pluckrose is overstating the problem but, she's just pushing the tedious "campus craziness" narrative that I find so boring.
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Most students are not crazed far-left loons but an ideological bias manifesting in authoritarianism and censorship in universities does exist & does need addressing. In same way, far-right ethnonationalism is an extreme fringe but there still needs to be people looking at it.

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    3. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I agree, I think you and I would just quibble over whether the authoritarian left or the ethnonationalist right are more of a threat to human flourishing.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @opticon_pan

      Not unless you think the authoritarian left is. I think it's clear the right is much more scary right now. In our manifesto, we said we had our own very strong views on which fringe loons were the bigger threat. That will be the right.

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    5. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ok, then we broadly agree I think.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
      Replying to @opticon_pan

      I thought we might. I don't think postmodernism & its offshoots are the biggest problem in the world. I do think a huge epistemological shift has taken place which is undermining the credibility of the left, feeding into right wing identity politics & post-truth society.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          Referring to this as 'postmodernism' causes confusion & it is more accurate to think of it as a postmodern epistemological & ideological shift & its evolution & normalisation within mainstream social conscience but this needs much unpacking. I am trying to do this.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          @Thesadredearth recently described it as 'logocentrism.' I think this encapsulates the problem much more neatly & gets at the reversals which have taken place in our understanding of the role of language and of subjective experience & objective reality.https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/10/the-world-made-flat-the-logocentric-left-and-the-politics-of-provocation/ …

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan @thesadredearth

          People have found this difficult to read as it deals with the ideas in their own economy, using their own language. But whereas postmodern approaches seek to complicate, confuse & find aporia, this piece seeks to dig into & define the underlying mechanisms of the symptoms we see

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        2. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Mmm yeah, I think there are plenty of examples of rhetoric from the left which are a gift to the right's proponents. I think my own personal goal is to encourage a more charitable view of the ideas on the left in order to discourage extreme examples being accepted as the whole.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @opticon_pan

          Absolutely. I get that. I think this is certainly worth doing but I'd argue it is better to do this by admitting to and addressing the bad ideas on the left as a leftie. The argument that this does not define the left is much better made this way.

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        1.  ☀️ Astaregia  ☀️‏ @asta_regia_ Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          The postmodern radicals are driving (if not stampeding) moderate left voters into the ranks of the centre and centre-right. We're already seeing this in countries like France and Spain, as the left dissolves into a mess of cainist factions obsessed with mutual loathing.

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