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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Pan Opticon

      So often 'overstating the problem' means 'focusing on a problem I don't find the most important.' That's fine but I don't think we all need to focus on the same problems. Specialisation is good. Speak to what you know. I know pomo thinking in academia.https://twitter.com/opticon_pan/status/974579333795753984 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Pan Opticon @opticon_pan
      Replying to @McwilliamBuck @HPluckrose
      Yeah I read it, I understand how people can take issue with some elements. I think Pluckrose is overstating the problem but, she's just pushing the tedious "campus craziness" narrative that I find so boring.
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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

      Most students are not crazed far-left loons but an ideological bias manifesting in authoritarianism and censorship in universities does exist & does need addressing. In same way, far-right ethnonationalism is an extreme fringe but there still needs to be people looking at it.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

          This is (indirectly) what James and I wrote about in our manifesto re: existential polarisation. @opticon_pan is right to be concerned about people maximising the lunatic fringe on the other side and presenting it as the whole of the other side. They're all Nazis/far-left loons.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

          Recognising tha vast majority of people are not extremist loons is essential. But there is also a tendency to minimise & even excuse the loons on your own side because the loons on the other side seem so much more dangerous & in doing so, internalise some of your side's lunacy

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

          "We don't need to worry about a few crazy leftist students when ethnonationalism is rising & there's a lunatic in the White House.' "We don't need to worry about a few neo-nazi loons when major institutions with great cultural power including universities are going nuts."

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16

          I think we do need to worry about all of that but also try to avoid polarisation and recognise that most people are not lunatics. As a leftie, I think we need to both point out the worst of the right & fix the worst of the left if we want the left electable again.

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        2. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I agree, I think you and I would just quibble over whether the authoritarian left or the ethnonationalist right are more of a threat to human flourishing.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @opticon_pan

          Not unless you think the authoritarian left is. I think it's clear the right is much more scary right now. In our manifesto, we said we had our own very strong views on which fringe loons were the bigger threat. That will be the right.

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        4. Pan Opticon‏ @opticon_pan Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Ok, then we broadly agree I think.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @opticon_pan

          I thought we might. I don't think postmodernism & its offshoots are the biggest problem in the world. I do think a huge epistemological shift has taken place which is undermining the credibility of the left, feeding into right wing identity politics & post-truth society.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          Referring to this as 'postmodernism' causes confusion & it is more accurate to think of it as a postmodern epistemological & ideological shift & its evolution & normalisation within mainstream social conscience but this needs much unpacking. I am trying to do this.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan

          @Thesadredearth recently described it as 'logocentrism.' I think this encapsulates the problem much more neatly & gets at the reversals which have taken place in our understanding of the role of language and of subjective experience & objective reality.https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/10/the-world-made-flat-the-logocentric-left-and-the-politics-of-provocation/ …

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 16
          Replying to @HPluckrose @opticon_pan @thesadredearth

          People have found this difficult to read as it deals with the ideas in their own economy, using their own language. But whereas postmodern approaches seek to complicate, confuse & find aporia, this piece seeks to dig into & define the underlying mechanisms of the symptoms we see

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