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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 15

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    And yet it's a strange coincidence that obesity genes are so common in countries with lots of junk food, less common in ones where there isn't and not common at all where food is scarce.https://twitter.com/Hereditarian98/status/974249011048734720 …

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    2.The obesity myth is that it's all due to lifestyle," says international obesity expert Professor Joe Proietto, the head of Austin Health's Weight Control Clinic in Melbourne. "In fact, obesity is predominantly genetic." https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/the-obesity-myth-experts-tackle-a-big-problem-to-deliver-new-solutions-20170829-gy6bhf.html …
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      1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 15

        I know I'm not genetically inclined to obesity due to fact that my parents & my grandparents, my aunts, uncles and cousins are all slim. And so was I for the 90% of my life when I wasn't on medication that made me ravenously hungry leading to the consumption of 1000s of calories

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      2. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev Mar 15
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        It's counterintuitive, but obesity is about 40-70% genetic. Apparently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_of_obesity …

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 15
        Replying to @christianjbdev

        You still need to actually eat too much tho.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

        Is it really that these genes are so prevalent in America and have suddenly increased in the last 50 years? How would that happen? Did fat people suddenly become really attractive so they got all the mates? It doesn't make sense not to focus on lifestyle

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      5. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I dunno. I need to read up on it. It could be effects on metabolism, or it could be that people with 'obesity genes' are more predisposed to gorge when there's a food surplus. I honestly don't know.

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      6. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev Mar 15
        Replying to @christianjbdev @HPluckrose

        So it could be a gene-environment interaction. I dunno. I'm no expert on these things.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 15
        Replying to @christianjbdev

        Probably, yes. Also a psychological comfort thing for many people. Doctors keep thinking this could be it for me but it isn't. I don't really think about food much. I just cram whatever is easiest in when hungry - usually toast.

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      1. Rick von SLAYger‏ @RickVonJaeger Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        i mean this is obvious, idk why folks are so confused. i mean, no matter how predisposed you are to, say, alcoholism, you'll never become an alcoholic if there is *no alcohol* for you to consume.

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      1. Sal Miller‏ @SalHugh Mar 15
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        The laws of physics are apparently just a myth that can easily be proven wrong by some fat people! They can magically create and store energy in fat without intaking the energy in the first place!

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      1. Tucker Roof‏ @GingerSnaps124 Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Epigenetics possibly?

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      1. nevynxxx‏ @nevynxxx Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Tangentially an Australian (I think) study recently showed that couples make better lifestyle choices (eat better quality food, eat out less, eat less junk, exercise more, smoke less) but tend to be fatter....... I find that fascinating.

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      2. Stefan Blomskog‏ @S_Blomskog Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That's not true really. There are examples in Good Calories, Bad Calories of poor people who do hard physical labor and still have a relatively high frequency of obesity. Problem for them is that their main food source is carbs.

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      3. Stefan Blomskog‏ @S_Blomskog Mar 15
        Replying to @S_Blomskog @HPluckrose

        Genes are only one factor in the equation. The amount you eat is another. But WHAT you eat seems to be, by far, the most important one

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      1. Gideon Moss‏ @egonotis Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think the tendency to conserve energy has a genetic basis. Some people are habitual fidgeters, pace up and down, tap their feet etc and others remain motionless unless required to move.

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      1. Marquis Le Dain‏ @MarquisLeDain Mar 15
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        There is a strong link between obesity and Lithium deficiency in populations who predominately consume meat products. https://getfit.jillianmichaels.com/foods-high-lithium-1831.html …

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      2. ibn Zakariya al-Razi‏ @ZakariyaAlRazi Mar 15
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Also, that the genes have only appeared in the last 40 years when food has become ridiculously plentiful in developed countries. Check old photos of people from the 40s, 50s and 60s and it is virtually impossible to find an overweight person.pic.twitter.com/DrnJ9nVe0G

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      3. Stefan Blomskog‏ @S_Blomskog Mar 15
        Replying to @ZakariyaAlRazi @HPluckrose

        That's mainly because of WHAT they were eating, and less because of how much. Check out pre-WWII European food science, and a guy called William Banting.

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      4. ibn Zakariya al-Razi‏ @ZakariyaAlRazi Mar 15
        Replying to @S_Blomskog @HPluckrose

        Of course

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