Interesting. I have not tended to focus much on this problem within the socialist left, looking more at the problems in the identitarian left. I shall investigate.https://twitter.com/PeterTatchell/status/973930531254661120 …
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I am much more sympathetic to the old style socialist/radical left than the new style intersectional/identitarian left. They are also generally much more sympathetic to me - a old style liberal leftie which used not to be the case. .
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Why is totalizing class identity any better than other identities? Seems to me they are all relevant in achieving more liberal social system.
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Replying to @corymassimino
Not about identity. About measurable needs & providing for them.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Surely those you accuse of engaging in identity politics would argue they are also concerned about measurable needs and providing for them?
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Replying to @corymassimino
I am talking about economic needs. Basic human needs. People of both sexes, all races, all stations in life can require an economic safety net. I support this. This is not identitarian. It is to be available to everyone who needs it.
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Mel Liflora @mellifloraOld style radical lefty sees a Dad of kid with leukemia, who got downsized from his job, lost insurance coverage as a result, bankrupted himself & lost his house paying for his kid's meds. Now homeless.#SJW lefty sees cishet white dude who needs to STFU & check his "privilege." https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/973941170807197697 …1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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Sure that's a problem and I'm not interested in defending it. But is that problem inherent in even considering non-class identities? It seems similarly wrong for someone to look at a wealthy business woman and respond to her complaints about workplace sexism with "but your rich!"
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Replying to @corymassimino
Of course. I am making the point I am making and nothing else. Not sure where you are going. I am leaving it here.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
sorry didn't mean to be hostile. just trying to challenge what i see as an inconsistency. followed you after you were on econtalk, enjoy your work.
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